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    Feb 15, 2013, 10:48 AM
    Flea and tick control
    Somehow, these little buggers always find themselves on my dog. I washed my pup with the shampoo, and they were gone, but natuaraly they've returned, and I know what a pain it can be to dogs and I also know washing them too much can dry the skin. And now we FINALLY found flea powder that is safe for pups and not just for adult use. So is there any RIGHT way to apply the powder? And how regularly? I read something about brushing it into the dogs fur, wich is why we also bought a dog brush (also because it's summer in south africa and I understands he'll need grooming more often) and also how much flea powder is the right amount?
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    Feb 15, 2013, 02:00 PM
    Most of the questions you asked should be answered on the label of the product. It may take a magnifying glass to read the thing, but it actually does give complete instructions (I hope).

    One tip to make controlling fleas and ticks in the summer easier is keeping the lawn cut very short. That provides less shelter from direct sunlight and predators.
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    Feb 16, 2013, 07:52 AM
    I don't know if it is available to you, but the flea/tick drops (frontline, advantage, etc.) work much better.

    I have no experience with flea/tick powder so I'm not sure the proper usage and so on. But I would think that powder would rub off quickly and wouldn't be as effective.
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    Feb 16, 2013, 08:44 AM
    Wow I'm posting three treads at the same time. It's almost like I'm asking more questions than anyone else lol :)

    Lucky, yes I'm fimiliar with the drips, but they don't sell any for dogs under six months and I know those things can be toxic if used incorrectly. So I'm not taking chances by giving him one for 6months and older, love him too much to risk that
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    Feb 16, 2013, 10:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Hayle101 View Post
    Wow I'm posting three treads at the same time. It's almost like I'm asking more questions than anyone else lol :)

    Lucky, yes I'm fimiliar with the drips, but they don't sell any for dogs under six months and I know those things can be toxic if used incorrectly. So I'm not taking chances by giving him one for 6months and older, love him too much to risk that
    Good decision. I'm not sure what brands are available in South Africa, but unless it's labeled for use on puppies I'd save it for an absolute last resort.

    Did you notice this is the second time I've mentioned the label on the product? At least in the U.S. pesticide labels are required to list ingredients, directions for use, and warnings about when NOT to use them.
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    Feb 16, 2013, 11:19 AM
    Yes, I don't know if you read about it in the U.S but South Africa is WAY behind when it comes to economy, and most of the labels just say the brand names and flavour or age of use. Never say if it's toxic to cats, or what would happen if I used it on puppies, and MOST of the vets don't even know what parvo is.
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    Feb 16, 2013, 12:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Hayle101 View Post
    Yes, I don't know if you read about it in the U.S but South Africa is WAY behind when it comes to economy, and most of the labels just say the brand names and flavour or age of use. Never say if it's toxic to cats, or what would happen if I used it on puppies, and MOST of the vets don't even know what parvo is.
    Give me the brand name, or better yet the active ingredients, and I'll see what I can find out as far as safe usage goes.
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    Feb 16, 2013, 09:10 PM
    For the powder you don't have to worry, I bought one that specificly stated safe for use on puppies. It's instructions are just a little incomplete, It tells me to use it every 3-4 days, but it doesn't say how much, or how to apply, so yesterday, I just threw as little as possible and brushed it into hus fur. As for the drops, I could give you the name of one we use for our older dogs.
    Its Pulvex. It doesn't give ingredients list, only ingredient it does state is Chlorpyrifos
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    Feb 17, 2013, 04:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Hayle101 View Post
    For the powder you don't have to worry, I bought one that specificly stated safe for use on puppies. It's instructions are just a little incomplete, It tells me to use it every 3-4 days, but it doesn't say how much, or how to apply, so yesterday, I just threw as little as possible and brushed it into hus fur. As for the drops, I could give you the name of one we use for our older dogs.
    Its Pulvex. It doesn't give ingredients list, only ingredient it does state is Chlorpyrifos
    Chlorpyrifos is a chlorinated hydrocarbon nerve agent no longer available in the U.S. because of it's widespread toxicity. Under the brand name Dursban it was the go-to insecticide for 20 years. It would kill every kind of pest there is. I'd be very worried about trying it on a puppy.

    The only translations I found for Pulvex Spot say it contains Permethrin, which is safer and labeled for use on puppies starting at 2 weeks old. See if you can find some of that rather than the chlorpyrifos.
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    Feb 17, 2013, 07:10 AM
    Thanks catsmine:) I'll ask the vet when we take him for his shots
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    Feb 17, 2013, 12:26 PM
    How old is this puppy?
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    Feb 19, 2013, 08:49 AM
    He's 9 weeks old, the last time we were at the vet, they said he's too young for shots right now. So we're going back at 12 weeks
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    Feb 19, 2013, 09:44 AM
    Hayle, I trust you've read the package ingredients and warnings and know to stay away from these products during your pregnancy - ?
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    Feb 19, 2013, 12:39 PM
    Flea and tick drops can be used on puppies over 8wks... And I'm not sure if things are different there, but here in the US, pups are started vaccines and deworming at 8wks as well
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    Feb 22, 2013, 10:08 PM
    Get some lemon juice with warm water and rub it on your dog's fur. Do these for at least 5 consecutive days for total flea control. Frontline is better than Advantage. Remember these brands are not recommended to be ingested in your pet. The natural method is popularly practiced by the pet owners if their dog has sensitive skin. Natural methods include washing your pet with dawn dish soap, rubbing your dog's fur with lemon juice mixed with warm water, etc.

    What Is The Best Flea Treatment For Dogs? Find Out Now!

    My fluffy had fleas. All I did was washing her with lemon juice and dawn dish soap for 2 weeks consecutively. No branded expensive medications :)

    Also you need to bomb the whole house with flea spray after your dogs is flea-free.
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    Feb 23, 2013, 03:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by teresanext123 View Post
    Get some lemon juice with warm water and rub it on your dog's fur. Do these for at least 5 consecutive days for total flea control. Frontline is better than Advantage. Remember these brands are not recommended to be ingested in your pet. The natural method is popularly practiced by the pet owners if their dog has sensitive skin. Natural methods include washing your pet with dawn dish soap, rubbing your dog's fur with lemon juice mixed with warm water, etc.

    What Is The Best Flea Treatment For Dogs? Find Out Now!

    My fluffy had fleas. All i did was washing her with lemon juice and dawn dish soap for 2 weeks consecutively. No branded expensive medications :)

    Also you need to bomb the whole house with flea spray after your dogs is flea-free.
    That's a fairly accurate and well written link, although how it applies to a 10 week old puppy in South Africa is questionable.

    Hayle101, the advice for washing the pup in a dish detergent is sound. Some U.S. states have even registered several brands as insecticidal soaps. Dawn, Joy, and Octagon brands come to mind if any of those are available. If not, check to make sure what you use is a detergent rather than a soap. The two are different. There should not be any danger to the pup with twice a week washing provided you dry him immediately and keep him warm. You're in Summertime so that shouldn't be too hard.

    Washing the pup's bedding is also essential, preferably with bleach. When he's old enough to stay outside for half a day (not too much longer), treating the house will be necessary. If you have looked at other questions about fleas on this site you will already have a good idea of what's involved with that.
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    Feb 23, 2013, 08:51 AM
    I disagree with the "flea bomb the whole house" comment. This is dangerous and exposes everyone (pets and human alike) to pesticides.
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    Feb 23, 2013, 09:24 AM
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    I disagree with the "flea bomb the whole house" comment. This is dangerous and exposes everyone (pets and human alike) to pesticides.
    You need to be more specific. "Pesticides" is defined as anything that kills pests. That includes soap and water. "Bomb" is just as bad, although I understand neither Hiroshima nor Shanghai had much of a pest problem for years.
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    Feb 23, 2013, 11:15 AM
    I was addressing "Also you need to bomb the whole house with flea spray after your dogs is flea-free."

    Yes, perhaps that person was addressing organic flea spray -

    It is my personal decision not to use aerosols and/or anything containing chemicals that might be harmful. I worked for the law firm that assisted "my City" in passing it's pesticide ordinance, and I saw facts and figures that are frightening, mostly about products in the hands of "amateurs."

    And, yes, my landscaper uses only organic products.

    And, yes, apparently the flea problem in Hiroshima was solved - laughing.
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    Feb 24, 2013, 01:27 AM
    Flea powders come with a manual or any directions listed on the product. They'll come back because there are eggs scattered all over your house. Bomb your house with flea spray. Here read

    Fleas On Dogs - What Can Be Done For Dog Fleas? | The Bug Squad

    To apply powder, it is just the same as how you use it on yourself. Rub it on your pet's skin, take note skin not fur. Do not use flea collars. Dawn dish soap everyday for your pet. Oral dog flea treatment would be nice. Frontline is better than Advantage for your information :)

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