[cheerchic24]

I no I have posted like 3 questions about my toe-touch, but I REALLY need help! Try outs are in three weeks and I can't make the squad unless my toe touch is perfect!:eek: Okay, so here's my major problem: When ever I roll my hips, I also lean in so much I'm practically upside down! When I don't roll my hips my chest doesn't go in as far but I don't go very high at all.:( I point my toes but only silghtly. So I practically need help with EVERYTHING in my toe touch!! Any advice:D would be greatly apretated! I'm desprate PLEASEEEE PPPPPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAsE ANSWER!

[RubyPitbull]

Cheerchic, I just noticed your post. I am so sorry that no one has been able to offer help here. Unfortunately, I do not think that we have any cheerleading experts here on this forum, which is why you probably have not received any answers. Most of us are overweight and out of shape old people who have nothing better to do with our time but sit on the computer all day long answering questions. You definitely don't want our input. We will probably steer you in the wrong direction.

The only suggestion I have is for you to check out the following link:

Toe Touch Jump Tips

[rudi_in]

I do recall all of your posts concerning toe touches...

Have you not seen my posts or do they not provide you with adequate tips and information? The information is definitely there but it does require work.

While I have not coached cheer specifically, I have coached gymnastics for 16 years. I am very knowledgeable in the technique required to do the jumps, twists, and tumbling skills that you would perform. I am also very knowledgeable in conditioning skill sets that are geared for those types of moves. I also understand the kinesiology and mechanics behind the moves. Oh, I am also versed in the sport psychology and pedagogy related to those skills.

Enough on my credentials...

If you read through my posts about toe touches that you and others have posted, you will see that there is quite a bit of useful knowledge within them.

Let me repost two of them here for your benefit and RubyPitbull's

I would hate to have you log out thinking that no one has tried to help you or has the knowledge to do so.

There are a few tips for keeping the chest up... Hopefully you can put some of them to use.

1. Try to make sure you keep the head up. Keeping the head up can sometimes help keep the chest up too.

2. Find a spot on the wall or an object in the distance to spot. Try to "point" your chest at the wall or object.

3. Lots of time spent visualizing can make a lot of difference too. For each jump that you do, visualize it they way it should look prior to doing it three times.

4. Also remember that good tuck, straddle, or pike jumps all begin with a strong straight jump. For the piked straddle (your toe touch jump), make sure that you do a big straight jump, lifting with the arms. Once you are airborne, lift the feet to the hands - don't "bend over" to touch the toes.

5. If you have a bar available to hang from you can lift the legs to the bar touching your toes to the outside of your hands. This is great conditioning as well as forcing the chest to remain upright.

This one was in response to a question posted by someone else but deals with rolling the hips.

Rolling one's hips is actually a bit more difficult than one might guess. It involves quite a bit of work to find and even more to strengthen and develop.

In gymnastics we refer to rolling the hips as "pelvic tilt" or "hollow body" with the latter being the most common.

The following is an article that I wrote for finding the hollow body and how to strengthen it. If you can accomplish the things outlined in the article you will have a wonderful hollow and therefore well rolled hips on your toe touch. The key for you will be to combine the hollow position with your jump. The strengthening exercises will help you to submit the position of the hips to memory so that it can be performed while airborne. This will take a considerable amount of practice.

Keep in mind that the article is geared for gymnasts so there is some information that you can disregard but much of it should be helpful in leading you in the right direction.

-------------article follows-------------------

Finding the Hollow

Sometimes just finding the hollow body can be a difficult task for some people. Once learned, the hollow body is relatively simple to get into but it can be a challenge to a new gymnast who has never tried it before. Here are few different ways to find the hollow.

The part of the hollow that gymnasts have trouble with is the pelvic tilt. The pelvis has a small range of motion and we do not generally think about pelvis movement like we do arm and leg movement for example. Thus, it can be quite tricky for some to concentrate on holding the pelvis in a particular position.

If you will just relax and lay down flat on the floor with the arms extended above the the head, you will see that the body naturally forms an arch in the lower back. While laying on your back, take one arm and try to place it under your lower back. Notice that your hand can go right under your back as if going through a tunnel. The key aspect of the hollow body is to press the lower back to the floor so that little "tunnel" goes away. In order to do this you must be able to tilt the pelvis.

One way to get to the hollow is to start on your back with arms extended above the head. You can then lift the arms and shoulders off the ground slightly as if in an attempt to do a "crunch". (Yes, you are going to have to squeeze those abs!) Continue to lift the shoulders and arms together until you begin to feel the lower back start pressing the floor. At the same time, begin lifting the legs off the ground slightly. You should not have to lift the legs so that the heels are much more than 12 inches off the ground. Keep the legs tight together and point the toes. When you reach the hollow position (like above) you should feel the lower back pressing the floor. Have someone try to fit their hand under your back. They should not be able to. You should be squeezing your abdominals, thighs, and gluts very hard.

For those of you who have trouble getting to the hollow this way, here is another method of reaching the hollow.

Start in a seated position on the floor holding your knees to your chest by grabbing around the legs and hanging on just below the knees. Round your back out and lean back and continue to hang on to your knees. You should keep the knees and chin tight to the chest. Rock back and forth and try to feel the lower back as it makes contact with the floor. Now, with control, bring the rock to a stop on your lower back. You should now be able to feel it pressed tightly to the floor. Notice the position of the shoulders off the ground. Now, while maintaining lower back contact with the floor, let go of the knees and extend the legs until they are straight and about 12 inches off the ground. Then raise the arms so that they are straight and extended above the head as in the picture above.

Congratulations! You have found the hollow!

Strengthening the Hollow

Once you have successfully found the hollow body, it is time to strengthen it. Here are several exercises that will strengthen the hollow body.

1. Static hold -- Once in the hollow body, simply hold the position as long as you can. I recommend working in sets of 5 seconds. Hold the hollow for five seconds then rest 5 seconds. Now hold 10 seconds and rest 5 seconds then hold 15 seconds and rest 5 seconds, etc. Your goal should be to hold the hollow for one minute without a rest.

2. Banana rocks -- Get into the hollow body and hold it tight. Start yourself rocking back and forth. each time you rock towards the head you can count one. (Until you get better, you may have to start rocking and then tighten up the hollow position.) Your goal should be to make 50 consecutive rocks.

3. Hollow raises -- Lay flat on the floor and "snap" to the hollow (get to the hollow as fast as you can) holding it for one second and returning to a flat position. Do these until you can do at least 30.

4. Flipped hollow -- Imagine what a hollow would look like upside down. Almost like a push-up position but the arms are extended and pass "through" the ears, chin is on chest (you should see your feet), and of course we maintain the tightness of abs, thighs, and gluts. Try to achieve the greatest possible distance between the feet and the hands while still being able to maintain the hollow. NO PIKES!! Work on holding this for a total of 60 seconds using the same method described in number one.

5. Hollow walks -- With a raised surface, use a flipped hollow with the feet on the ground and the hands on the raised surface. (a tumble tramp works great for this) Once in the flipped hollow, shuffle the length of the tumble tramp or other raised surface. Depending on the length of your surface, the number of repetitions will vary. Three lengths of a standard 40 foot tumble tramp is good. Again, no pikes.

6. Frisbee walks -- Using a tight flipped hollow, place the feet in a frisbee toes pointed. In this exercise, deviation of arm position is allowed. Use the arms to pull yourself forward. One lap on the floor is good. Now repeat this exercise going backward. One lap. (the frisbee is to prevent rug burn on the toes and for ease of slide)

7. Arch-Hollow snaps -- On the high bar, create a arched position and without swinging, snap to a hollow body and hold for a second or two. Repeat in sets of ten to let the hands rest.

8. Hollow log -- From a hollow position, roll over to an arch position and back to a hollow without letting the legs or the arms touch the floor. Keep going. A couple times down and back on the floor is good.

What is the hollow good for?

Tap swing (see # 7)
Giants
Handstands and many skills that pass through the handstand
Vertical vaults
Tumbling
Much, much more (in your case, great piked straddle position on the toe touch)

Strength in and awareness of the hollow body position will greatly increase the proficiency and success of any gymnast. The hollow body is a perfect position to practice at home and during the off season because these activities can all be done safely away from the gym. (except #7 unless you have your own bars at home) I know that if you work hard and strengthen your hollow position, many skills will become much easier for you to master. Think about how much a 10 minute investment each day working on hollow body conditioning could do for you!

Combine the information in these two posts for a sweet jump. I wish I could be with you to show you but obviously that won't happen. You can roll the hips without leaning forward but you need to follow what I outline in the hollow body article...seriously. You have to train and condition the body to know where that position is.


Good Luck!

[cheerchic24]

Thank you! This information was very helpful! :)

[Sam1]

I no i have posted like 3 questions about my toe-touch, but I REALLY need help! Try outs are in three weeks and i can't make the squad unless my toe touch is perfect!:eek: Okay, so here's my major problem: When ever i roll my hips, i also lean in so much im practically upside down! When i dont roll my hips my chest dosnt go in as far but i dont go very high at all.:( I point my toes but only silghtly. So i practically need help with EVERYTHING in my toe touch!!! Any advice:D would be greatly apretated! I'm desprate PLEASEEEE PPPPPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAsE ANSWER!

what i would do is go to a cheerleading gym and take a privite lesson with one of their coachs!it would help you alot!!!

[VarsityCheerGuru]

You can also try to tuck your butt in REALLY!! Hard, that always works for me. And pretend like you're kicking someone beside you so that your legs are straight out beside you.

[cheerchic24]

Thx varsitycheerguru! I tried this and it worked like AMAZINGLY!! :)