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    Aug 19, 2012, 12:01 PM
    Is the cop allowed
    Can a police officer search me and my car when he pulled me over and the passenger had a warrant? I did not know he had one? The police officer said that's why I got pulled over... cause I was not doing any driving violations...
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    Aug 19, 2012, 12:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by krazy111 View Post
    Can a police officer search me and my car when he pulled me over and the passenger had a warrant? I did not know he had one? The police officer said thats why i got pulled over...cause i was not doing any driving violations....
    Here's what I find:

    "The motor vehicle exception was first established by the United States Supreme in Carroll v. United States. The motor vehicle exception allows an officer to search a vehicle without a warrant as long as he has probable cause to believe that evidence or contraband is located in the vehicle.

    The motor vehicle exception is based on the idea of a lower expectation of privacy in motor vehicles due to the regulations they are under. Additionally, the ease of mobility creates an inherent exigency. In Pennsylvania v. Labron the U.S. Supreme Court, stated, “If a car is readily mobile and probable cause exists to believe it contains contraband, the Fourth Amendment thus permits police to search the vehicle without more.”

    The scope of the search is limited to only what area the officer has probable cause to search. This area can encompass the entire vehicle including the trunk. The motor vehicle exception in addition to allowing officers to search the vehicle also allows officers to search any containers found inside the vehicle that could contain the evidence or contraband being searched for. The objects searched do not need to belong to the owner of the vehicle. In Wyoming v. Houghton, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the ownership of objects searched in the vehicle is irrelevant to the legitimacy of the search.

    Some state's constitutions require officers to show there was not enough time to obtain a warrant. With the exception of states with this requirement, an officer is not required to obtain a warrant even if it may be possible to do so.

    In United States v. Ludwig ,The Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals found that a search warrant is not required even if there is little or no risk of the vehicle being driven off. The court stated, “[i]f police have probable cause to search a car, they need not get a search warrant first even if they have time and opportunity.” In United States v. Johns,the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a search of a vehicle that had been seized and was in police custody for three days prior to the search. The court stated, “A vehicle lawfully in police custody may be searched on the basis of probable cause to believe it contains contraband, and there is no requirement of exigent circumstances to justify such a warrantless search”.

    The motor vehicle exception does not only apply to automobiles. The U.S. Supreme Court in California v. Carney found the motor vehicle exception to apply to a motor home. The court did however, make a distinction between readily mobile motor homes and parked mobile homes. A number of factors including, the home being elevated on blocks, whether the vehicle is licensed, and if it is connected to utilities determine if the motor vehicle exception applies. In United States v. Johns, the motor vehicle exception was applied to trucks. In United States v. Forrest it was applied to trailers pulled by trucks. United States v. Forrest applied the exception to boats and in United States v. Hill to house boats. In United States v. Nigro and United States v. Montgomery the motor vehicle exception was found to also include airplanes." http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/US_Crim...hout_a_warrant

    Were you charged with anything? If you were your Attorney can argue illegal search, although I doubt it's a winning argument.

    And, yes, having a person with a warrant in your car is grounds to stop and search.
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    Aug 19, 2012, 01:24 PM
    This is the issue, the police officer may search your car anytime he asks, if you don't say no.

    So when he said he was going to search your car, at any time did you say he could not do it and/or tell him to stop.

    He may also search even if you say no, any area around the suspect being arrested.

    If he searched you, that is borderline and could depend on many factors, including how they searched you.

    Also where in the car did they search, just front around drivers, or in trunk and more
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    Aug 19, 2012, 05:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by krazy111 View Post
    the passenger had a warrant? I did not know he had one? The police officer said thats why i got pulled over
    Hello k:

    The cop needs probable cause to pull you over... He CAN'T find it afterwards and claim that's why he stopped you. The search is illegal.

    excon

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