[tomder55]

D. Land (Agenda item 10 (d))

Preamble



1. Land, because of its unique nature and the crucial role it plays in human settlements, cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice; if unchecked, it may become a major obstacle in the planning and implementation of development schemes. Social justice, urban renewal and development, the provision of decent dwellings and healthy conditions for the people can only be achieved if land is used in the interests of society as a whole.


2.. . Public control of land use is therefore indispensable to its protection as an asset and the achievement of the long-term objectives of human settlement policies and strategies.


3. To exercise such control effectively, public authorities require detailed knowledge of the current patterns of use and tenure of land; appropriate legislation defining the boundaries of individual rights and public interest; and suitable instruments for assessing the value of land and transferring to the community, inter alia through taxation, the unearned increment resulting from changes in use, or public investment or decision, or due to the general growth of the community.

UNITED NATIONS CONFERENCE ON HUMAN SETTLEMENTS

Above is part of what the UN calls 'Agenda 21' . Agenda 21 is another one of those UN control the world treaties like Kyoto("global warmng " ) or LOST(Law of the Seas Treaty) .

It has not been ratified by the Senate... but there is no guarantees that the US EPA or other agencies of the US Government would not try to implement it's provisions through stealth.

Given that threat to sovereignty ,Alabama took proactive action ,and both houses of their legislature unanimously passed legislation to protect property rights. After some prodding ;a reluctant Governor Robert Bentley signed it into law last week.
http://www.openbama.org/bills/1059/SB477-int.pdf

(I'm sure you that in the dinosaurs )

But a blogger for the London Telegraph recognizes the significance of both this vote ;and the Walker victory in Wisconsin Tuesday. {{ For too long we have been told by many siren voices on the alleged Right ("detoxifying the brand", anyone?) that socialism is now so well-entrenched that the very best any conservative administration can hope to achieve is to continue the upward trend of government spending only at a marginally smaller and less catastrophic rate than a Left-liberal administration would adopt. Wisconsin proves that this ain't necessarily so }}.

He writes of the Alabama vote...

One of the reasons I have become so embroiled in the Climate Wars these last few years is because I recognised early on that the once-worthy cause of environmentalism has been suborned by the international Left as a proxy issue designed to mask its real agenda: the destruction of the capitalist system; global wealth redistribution; the removal of property rights; a gradual takeover by democratically unaccountable Left-leaning bureaucrats and technocrats belonging to organisations like the United Nations and the European Union. Agenda 21 – born at the Marxist Maurice Strong's Rio Earth Summit – is a key part of this campaign.. .

Until really quite recently, those us fighting this war felt badly outnumbered, much put-upon and very lonely. The Wisconsin and Alabama results show that the tide is turning. To which I, for one, say: "Hallelujah!"

How Wisconsin and Alabama just helped save the world – Telegraph Blogs

[speechlesstx]

Hallelujah, indeed.

[tomder55]

The trifect of the week was the under reported California primary, where initiatives in San Jose and San Diego that reduces the pensions of public service employees, were overwhelmingly adopted . Even in the bluest of blue states they are beginning to embrace reality .

[TUT317]

The trifect of the week was the under reported California primary, where initiatives in San Jose and San Diego that reduces the pensions of public service employees, were overwhelmingly adopted . Even in the bluest of blue states they are beginning to embrace reality .

Yes, time for everyone to put on the hair shirts. The politicians obviously have theirs on.

I wonder if there is anything on the table regarding a cut in politician pensions.


Interesting how how those who put on the shirts are predetermined to do the least suffering. Strange isn't it?



Tut

[paraclete]

Ah the sprectre of austerity, it looms in even the sunniest of places, but those public servants should be happy they retain their jobs, because the real way to cut costs is to reduce the public service

[tomder55]

Simply stated ;I would eliminate pensions for elected politicians. But I would also set term limits so they could not accumulate the time necessary for pensions .

But that is not really the issue . It is not their pensions that are breaking the states budgets athough they are very much complicit in causing the problem.

The truth of the matter is that public service employees should not be allowed to unionize. They are a conflict of interests. Public Unions force employees to contribute their taxpayer funded dues to the union coffers . The unions in turn use those funds to bribe... oops... I mean contribute to politicians, and help elect the people who ultimately will decide their compensation. . Since the politician is playing with taxpayer money instead of private money they have nothing to lose by conceding to union compenstation demands. The tax payer ,who selects the politician to look after their interests get screwed in the exchange.

This is how the scam works... Union negotiators open with high wage increase demands.The politician pretending to look out for the public interest says no because they will have to increase taxes.They then settle for a more modest increase in pay in exchange for more generous pension and retirement health care benefits. Politicians know very well that won't work long term. But it will be someone else's problem.

Well now in America and the world ;that long term has become now . Local ,state governments cannot afford to meet those obligations... and unlike national governments or the EU ,cannot endlessly print money to meet those obligations .
What you saw in Wisconsin and even California is the tax payer saying enough is enough . Why should we pay compensation to our employees with our tax dollars that is greater than the compensation we get in the private sector ? The left is always talking about fairness. Well where is the fairness in that arrangement ? But I'm not talking fairness. I'm talking about a fiscal cliff that scam has brought us to. The choice is clear. Kick backs or layoffs.

Another blue state where this is happening is Rhode Island ,where Obama won by a 27.8 percent margin in 2008, Mayor Angel Taveras has proposed a deal to modify the pensions of government workers in order to save the city from bankruptcy.Here in NY Goveror Cuomo is taking a hardline also... as is Goveror Quinn in Illinois (Obama's home state ) .

Most encouraging is that in Wisconsin ,where Walker initiated a plan where rank and file have a choice now because their dues are no longer automatically deducted from their paychecks ;many have chosen to withhold their dues from their union bosses .That indicates what I've always suspected... that they were being held hostage to positions they did not support.

So what is required is not the reactionary attempts to preserve the failing blue model .That is on it's way out no matter how hard the "progressives " try to return to the industrial age model. A new social model will emerge. The question is ;will it be controlled by central power of national capitols .Will it be controlled by nameless faceless unelected bureaucrats at Turtle Bay NY ? The people at the local levels are flexing their muscles and saying maybe they have a better way to protect their interests.

[paraclete]

Simply stated ;I would eliminate pensions for elected politicians. But I would also set term limits so they could not accumulate the time necessary for pensions .

But that is not really the issue . It is not their pensions that are breaking the states budgets athough they are very much complicit in causing the problem.

The truth of the matter is that public service employees should not be allowed to unionize. They are a conflict of interests. Public Unions force employees to contibute their taxpayer funded dues to the union coffers . The unions in turn use those funds to bribe....oops ...I mean contribute to politicians, and help elect the people who ultimately will decide their compensation. . Since the politician is playing with taxpayer money instead of private money they have nothing to lose by conceding to union compenstation demands. The tax payer ,who selects the politician to look after their interests get screwed in the exchange.

This is how the scam works ... Union negotiators open with high wage increase demands.The politician pretending to look out for the public interest says no because they will have to increase taxes.They then settle for a more modest increase in pay in exchange for more generous pension and retirement health care benefits. Politicians know very well that won't work long term. But it will be someone else's problem.

Well now in America and the world ;that long term has become now . Local ,state governments cannot afford to meet those obligations ....and unlike national governments or the EU ,cannot endlessly print money to meet those obligations .
What you saw in Wisconsin and even California is the tax payer saying enough is enough . Why should we pay compensation to our employees with our tax dollars that is greater than the compensation we get in the private sector ? The left is always talking about fairness. Well where is the fairness in that arrangement. But I'm not talking fairness. I'm talking about a fiscal cliff that scam has brought us to. The choice is clear. Kick backs or layoffs.

Another blue state where this is happening is Rhode Island ,where Obama won by a 27.8 percent margin in 2008, Mayor Angel Taveras has proposed a deal to modify the pensions of government workers in order to save the city from bankruptcy.Here in NY Goveror Cuomo is taking a hardline also ...as is Goveror Quinn in Illinois (Obama's home state ) .

Most encouraging is that in Wisconsin ,where Walker intiated a plan where rank and file have a choice now because their dues are no longer automatically deducted from their paychecks ;many have chosen to withhold their dues from their union bosses which indicates what I've always suspected ...that they were being held hostage to positions they did not support.

So what is required is not the reactionary attempts to preserve the failing blue model .That is on it's way out no matter how hard the "progressives " try to return to the industrial age model. A new social model will emerge. The question is ;will it be controlled by central power of national capitols .Will it be controlled by nameless faceless unelected bureaucrats at Turtle Bay NY ? The people at the local levels are flexing their muscles and saying maybe they have a better way to protect their interests.

I don't understand your problem we started retiring generous pension plans fifteen years ago and changed the nature of fringe benefits and accumulations and this happened with the cooperation of the unions there are trade offs and sometimes this means a little more cash compensation, particularly for politicians, a few years later and a little more reform results in redundancies and new staffing levels and natural attrition takes care of it. The unions can be given the option of retaining positions or outsourcing, they quickly settle for protecting their existing membership and negotiating redundancy packages. All it takes is for government to set policy and direction with the will power to see it through. You have let democracy, which is the right to be heard, get in the way of good government

[speechlesstx]

You're right, and Scott Walker had the will to take them on. You'll probably never see that on any large scale with Democrats in power because they're in the tank for each other. Dems need unions to stay in power and unions need Dems to cover for them while union bosses fatten their bellies and bank accounts via legalized extortion.

[tomder55]

A heated battle is taking place inside a giant U.S. public employees' union following its crushing failure this week to oust Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker - organized labor's biggest political loss in decades.

At stake is the direction of the 1.3-million-member American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees after 31 years under retiring president Gerald McEntee. He's been known for his zeal to build and maintain AFSCME's clout as a leading liberal voice and political kingmaker in the Democratic Party.

A major question is whether that should continue.

Rift over political spending divides huge union - WKRN, Nashville News, Nashville Weather and Sports

[paraclete]

One swallow does not a summer make

[speechlesstx]

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.