[babette1ster]

I live in Arkansas, USA. We are 62 and 63 yrs old, my husband to be, and he has the handicap tag, we have degrees. We live in a apartment complex in Fayetteville, AR, and I have been told by the local police that this is private property and I would have to ask the apartment complex. So, I addressed it with the apartment complex and they said it was used by the maintenance that work for the complex. The question: We have a handicap tag so we park in the handicap area marked handicap. There is a area on the side in yellow lines and a few motorcycle park in these yellow lines next to handicap marked parking. I addressed with the police and apartment complex and as above mentioned they said it was private property and used for maintenance workers.

Although, the motorcycle parks in the yellow lines, when it is obvious that there is other parking available within feet of the yellow lines...

Do you have a federal law that I could print out... regardless of the private property stated from the apartment complex office, that I can show them and the police also, that this is not lawful? I believe this is a federal law, this private poperty rule that they mention should apply to handicap usage only, right, not motorcycles ?

Thank you, Charlotte Peterson

[ebaines]

I'm not quite following you. Handicap parking spaces are outlined with blue paint (not yellow), and must have a prominent handicap parking sign associated with each space. You mention a yellow striped area adjacent to the handicapped parking space, and that motorcycles that have been parking there. Is your concern that you think the motorcycles are actually in the handicap parking spot? Or are you concerned that no one should be parking where the yellow lines are?

[smoothy]

I live in Arkansas, USA. We are 62 and 63 yrs old, my husband to be, and he has the handicap tag, we have degrees. We live in a apartment complex in Fayetteville, AR, and I have been told by the local police that this is private property and I would have to ask the apartment complex. So, I addressed it with the apartment complex and they said it was used by the maintenance that work for the complex. The question: We have a handicap tag so we park in the handicap area marked handicap. There is a area on the side in yellow lines and a few motorcycle park in these yellow lines next to handicap marked parking. I addressed with the police and apartment complex and as above mentioned they said it was private property and used for maintenance workers.

Although, the motorcycle parks in the yellow lines, when it is obvious that there is other parking available within feet of the yellow lines.....

Do you have a federal law that I could print out....regardless of the private property stated from the apartment complex office, that I can show them and the police also, that this is not lawful ?? I believe this is a federal law, this private poperty rule that they mention should apply to handicap usage only, right, not motorcycles ?

Thank you, Charlotte Peterson

Handicap parking is denoted in Blue... not yellow everyplace I've been in the USA and Europe as well. There is Usually a sign.. and its always painted on the ground in the spot.

If you park a car where there is yellow stripes.. you can and will get ticketed and maybe towed. The handicap parker isn't entitled to the area surrounding the handicap spot too.

Motorcycles are generally allowed to park like that because otherwise people will cry and whine about a motorcycle taking up an entire parking spot... even through they are entitled to.

[babette1ster]

I'm not quite following you. Handicap parking spaces are outlined with blue paint (not yellow), and must have a prominent handicap parking sign associated with each space. You mention a yellow striped area adjacent to the handicapped parking space, and that motorcycles that have been parking there. Is your concern that you think the motorcycles are actually in the handicap parking spot? Or are you concerned that no one should be parking where the yellow lines are?

Exactly, no one should be lawfully allowed to park in a yellow lined parking next to or on the parking lot. It is functional for motorized wheelchairs to access sidewalks, a handicap parking spot ? Is this correct ?

[ebaines]

I believe in AR the rule for designating no parking is a striped area that is labeled "no parking" - like in the photo below.

While there are federal rules about handicap parking (regarding how they are to be designated, how many are required in public parking areas, etc) I don't think there are federal rules regarding parking in no parking zone.

Could you also please clarify the bit about the lot being used for maintenance workers - if the lot is not intended for residents, why are you parking there?

[Fr_Chuck]

Of course the no parking next to the handicap is for use with handicap vans, so their door can open, normally the space next to them will specificy VAN acceptable.

There is to be no parking to allow a van to open a side door with a lift or a ramp.

Do you drive a van with a lift or ramp, of just a car ?

You asked for the laws and here they are

http://www.access-board.gov/ufas/ufas-html/ufas.htm


4.6 PARKING AND PASSENGER LOADING ZONES.

4.6.1 MINIMUM NUMBER. Parking spaces required to be accessible by 4.1 shall comply with 4.6.2 through 4.6.4. Passenger loading zones required to be accessible by 4.1 shall comply with 4.6.5 and 4.6.6.

4.6.2 LOCATION. Parking spaces for disabled people and accessible passenger loading zones that serve a particular building shall be the spaces or zones located closest to the nearest accessible entrance on an accessible route. In separate parking structures or lots that do not serve a particular building, parking spaces for disabled people shall be located on the shortest possible circulation route to an accessible pedestrian entrance of the parking facility.

4.6.3* PARKING SPACES. Parking spaces for disabled people shall be at least 96 in (2440 mm) wide and shall have an adjacent access aisle 60 in (1525 mm) wide minimum (see Fig. 9). Parking access aisles shall be part of an accessible route to the building or facility entrance and shall comply with 4.3. Two accessible parking spaces may share a common access aisle. Parked vehicle overhangs shall not reduce the clear width of an accessible circulation route. Parking spaces and access aisles shall be level with surface slopes not exceeding 1:50 in all directions.

EXCEPTION: If accessible parking spaces for vans designed for handicapped persons are provided, each should have an adjacent access aisle at least 96 in (2440 mm) wide complying with 4.5, Ground and Floor Surfaces.

4.6.4* SIGNAGE. Accessible parking spaces shall be designated as reserved for the disabled by a sign showing the symbol of accessibility (see 4.30.5). Such signs shall not be obscured by a vehicle parked in the space.

4.6.5 PASSENGER LOADING ZONES. Passenger loading zones shall provide an access aisle at least 60 in (1525 mm) wide and 20 ft (6 m) long adjacent and parallel to the vehicle pull-up space (see Fig. 10). If there are curbs between the access aisle and the vehicle pull-up space, then a curb ramp complying with 4.7 shall be provided. Vehicle standing spaces and access aisles shall be level with surface slopes not exceeding 1:50 in all directions.

4.6.6 VERTICAL CLEARANCE. Provide minimum vertical clearances of 114 in at accessible passenger loading zones and along vehicle access routes to such areas from site entrances. If accessible van parking spaces are provided, then the minimum vertical clearance should be 114 in.

4.7 CURB RAMPS.

4.7.1 LOCATION. Curb ramps complying with 4.7 shall be provided wherever an accessible route crosses a curb.

4.7.2 SLOPE. Slopes of curb ramps shall comply with 4.8.2. The slope shall be measured as shown in Fig. 11. Transitions from ramps to walks, gutters, or streets shall be flush and free of abrupt changes. Maximum slopes of adjoining gutters, road surface immediately adjacent to the curb ramp, or accessible route shall not exceed 1.20.

4.7.3 WIDTH. The minimum width of a curb ramp shall be 36 in (915 mm), exclusive of flared sides.

4.7.4 SURFACE. Surfaces of curb ramps shall comply with 4.5.

[smoothy]

If its not marked for handicap parking then its not... and extra wide spots are specifically marked as such when it applies At least in my part of the country it is... around here spots immediately adjacent to handicapped spots are for regular parking if they aren't blue... if they aren't blue then they aren't reserved for the handicapped parkers... and while some are wider than the others, not all are and NONE I have seen are wide enough for two vehicles.



Of course a photo is worth a thousand words... sometimes its difficult to describe things in enough detail to relay a thought.

I have a feeling that I know what the OP is describing... but there is no way of knowing for sure. There is a remnant area that's really not sufficient to dividing into regular spaces (sometimes due to depth) so they put yellow stripes