[hannah1624]

I live in Ontario,Canada. My friend gave me temp custody of her two daughters almost 2 yrs ago. After a couple months the father took the girls. At the time he had a good job and a place for the girls to live. 6 months later he moved in with me with his children. They lived with me for over a year in which time I took care of his kids plus my own kids. He sat around refused to get a job to support them etc. Now he's moved 2 hrs away denied me access of any kind. I found out recently he's spending 900 in booze his parents are buying the groceries and the girls are always crying and screaming. My question is how do I get temp custody of them again so they can have the stable environment they had before. I have been previsiously approved to have the girls by c.a.s ( cps )... Any help would b great thanks

[Fr_Chuck]

Report him to CPS, get the children taken away from him.

[hannah1624]

I've already informed 2 county cps and they aren't concerned about the amount of drinking he does or the lack of care the girls are getting :(

[ScottGem]

I'm curious as to how you got approved to have the girls. The mother had no right to give you the girls. They should have gone to the father if the mother couldn't take care of them.

If CPS has investigated and found no reason to remove the girls from their current environment, there is little you can do. You can try going further up the line at CPS, you can try going to the media. I don't think you can go to court for custody because you have no legal standing.

[hannah1624]

Cps granted me custody when the mother had a breakdown... at the time the father was no where to be found. I have recently spoken to several lawyers and I have grounds to go for temp custody again providing I find proof of neglect and his booze habits... which the booze part is easy when a mutal friend is sending me his bank statements!!

[cdad]

His bank statements are private. You shouldn't be seeing them at all. Both you and your friend can go to jail for that. You can't use evidence gathered illegally. If your in jail then you can't possibly help these children.

[AK lawyer]

His bank statements are private. You shouldnt be seeing them at all. Both you and your friend can go to jail for that. ...

I don't think so.

If the best friend broke into a house to get the statements, possibly. But we don't know how the friend got them.

And if OP received them, it's not a crime to do so unless he or she knew them to be stolen.

If, on the other hand, the friend saw them laying around and made copies of them, I doubt that a crime has been committed.

But, of course, we digress.

[hannah1624]

The statements were sitting open on the counter and they took pics of them. So no illegal action happened. :)

[cdad]

Sorry but it is illegal to pass along his personal information. And since it is illegal it won't hold up in court as it was obtained by illegal means.

Pretexting protection

(Subtitle B: Fraudulent Access to Financial Information, codified at 15 U.S.C. §§ 6821–6827)

Pretexting (sometimes referred to as "social engineering") occurs when someone tries to gain access to personal nonpublic information without proper authority to do so. This may entail requesting private information while impersonating the account holder, by phone, by mail, by email, or even by "phishing" (i.e., using a phony website or email to collect data). The GLB encourages the organizations covered by the GLB to implement safeguards against pretexting. For example, a well-written plan designed to meet GLB's Safeguards Rule ("develop, monitor, and test a program to secure the information") would likely include a section on training employees to recognize and deflect inquiries made under pretext. In fact, the evaluation of the effectiveness of such employee training probably should include a follow-up program of random spot-checks, "outside the classroom", after completion of the [initial] employee training, in order to check on the resistance of a given (randomly chosen) student to various types of "social engineering" -- perhaps even designed to focus attention on any new wrinkle that might have arisen after the [initial] effort to "develop" the curriculum for such employee training. Under United States law, pretexting by individuals is punishable as a common law crime of False Pretenses.


Can a Private Investigator get Bank Records or Account Information?

Gramm?Leach?Bliley Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[hannah1624]

Then how do I go about proving this? Should I be calling social assistance - which he is on, telling them to request his bank statements and let them see he is spending both his welfare check and his child tax benefit( baby bonus) on booze? Since I posted this question he gone from 900-1,100 in booze and he has become short tempered toward the girls and everyone close to him! The girls tell me he hits them - whether its true or not I don't know but cps says they need a certain amount of calls before they go investigate... I think that's a load of crap!

[cdad]

You just have to feed the system and do as the system requires. First off if others are being mistreated then they can call also if there is a quota system for CPS. Here is the problem. Even though the father isn't caring for the children it sounds like the grandparents (his parents) are stepping up to care for them. It would require an investigation to get to what abuse and where it is occurring. For now all you can do is keep calling CPS and see what they can do. Encourage the others to call also. Without doctors reports etc or other professional testimony CPS may be waiting for something to occur that is irrefutable. It is sad but often true that they too are restricted by rules. But those same rules keep both sides at bay as CPS has been known to overstep boundries and lie. All you can do is keep your eyes and ears out and keep doing as you were only not the illegal gathering of information. That is a huge no no and can sabatoge the efforts your making.

[hannah1624]

Hmmm OK then thanks Califdadof3 :) hopefully something gets done soon.