[paraclete]

lets see the leading scientists of the hypothesis manipulated data to support a preconceived conclusion ;suppressed any evidence that ran counter to their hypothesis ,and then emailed each other bragging how they did it ... no conspiracy there .

Well of course it wasn't a conspiracy, Tom, a conspiracy only happens when you don't get your way, this was just some misguided people who weren't try to decieve us, just tieding up the data which is what they have probably done all of their academic lives. It brings us to the point of asking what other hypotheses are wrong and manipulated to suit the idea that pure research should be fostered to keep these dills employed and out of the way of those trying to actually produce something. I mean these guys weren't supported by oil or coal companies or anything like that otherwise the data would have been tiedied in another direction.

There are some things I still don't get;
Why are the heat readings taken in one of the consistently hot spots of the globe?
Why are the CO2 readings taken within spitting distance of an active volcano?
Why are heat readings taken near air conditioning condensers.

Perhaps the data did need tieding up to make sure these were included?

[excon]

Perhaps the data did need tieding up to make sure these were included?

Hello again, birthers... I mean climate change deniers...

Didn't you read the Birth Certificate?? It explains all about climate change.. Bwa, ha ha ha.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Back to the OP for a sec. As I recall, it was supporters of Hillary Clinton that drummed up this birther conspiracy when her campaign started fizzling.

I also believe it was the NY Times that first questioned McCain's eligibility. Progressive Michael Ruppert along with Canadian journalist Barrie Zwicker and others drummed up the 9/11 truther conspiracy, which led to the "Bush did it" rallies by The All People's Coalition in San Francisco. It certainly wasn't a right-winger that ran with the "Bush lied" and the multitude of other Iraqi conspiracies attributed to Bush, or the "Trig truther" conspiracy.

I'd also add that most of the usual suspects on the right dismissed the "birther" nonsense early on. Seems to me the left just loves to stir up sh*t.

[excon]

Seems to me the left just loves to stir up sh*t.

Hello again, Steve:

So, the right wing LIES through their teeth, and when they're caught, you say the left loves to stir up crap... DUDE!

excon

[speechlesstx]

Um, what lies would you be referring to? Give me proof, not posturing.

[excon]

Um, what lies would you be referring to? Give me proof, not posturing.

Hello again, Steve:

I don't know... Didn't you hear Trump saying there's something ON the birth certificate that he doesn't want us to see? I did. Didn't you hear Trump say he has two investigators in Hawaii? I did. Didn't you hear Trump say his investigators reported to him that the birth certificate WAS NOT THERE??

I heard all that. It's a lie. Just cause you didn't hear it, doesn't mean he didn't say it.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Trump is no right-winger.

[NeedKarma]

Ah, the standard No true Scotsman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia statement. How I miss thee.

[excon]

Trump is no right-winger.

Hello again, Steve:

Sorry. TODAY he's a right winger. I agree that he wasn't a right winger yesterday, and he probably won't be one tomorrow.. But, TODAY, he's playing that roll.

I understand, though... I'd disown him too.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Ah, the standard No true Scotsman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia statement. How I miss thee.

See ex's comment, he speaketh the truth.

Sorry. TODAY he's a right winger. I agree that he wasn't a right winger yesterday, and he probably won't be one tomorrow.. But, TODAY, he's playing that roll.

[tomder55]

He changes his stripes swiftly and often. His last big campaign donations went to Schmuck Schumer and Rhambo Emanuel.

What is his Party ? Well now he's a Republic... He was also one in 1987.

In October 1999, he registered in the Independence Party because he was considering a run for President as a Reform Party candidate in 2000. August 2001, switched to Democrat. He converted back to being a Republic in 2009. In fact he's the classic re-pubic

[NeedKarma]

He changes his stripes swiftly and often. His last big campaign donations went to Charles Ellis "Chuck" Schumer and Rahm Israel Emanuel.

What is his Party ? Well now he's a Republican ....He was also one in 1987.

In October 1999, he registered in the Independence Party because he was considering a run for President as a Reform Party candidate in 2000. August 2001, switched to Democrat. He converted back to being a Republican in 2009. In fact he's the classic re-Republican

I fixed your post for you so that others would understand it.

[tomder55]

Still think you are site editor ?

[NeedKarma]

Nope but I play the role of an adult here. :D Others not so much.

[tomder55]

:rolleyes:

[speechlesstx]

Nope but I play the role of an adult here.

And once in a while you give us a good laugh.

[NeedKarma]

Excellent!

[speechlesstx]

Speaking of climate change, apparently the recent tornado victims had it coming for being deniers.

The congressional delegations of these states — Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia, Virginia, and Kentucky — overwhelmingly voted to reject the science that polluting the climate is dangerous. They are deliberately ignoring the warnings from scientists.

Not just once, but at least twice ThinkProgress blamed deniers for the tornadoes, i.e. weather, that killed almost 300 people.

Craig Fugate, FEMA administrator actually has it right. "Actually what we're seeing is springtime," he said.

[NeedKarma]

Not just once, but at least twice ThinkProgress blamed deniers for the tornadoes,

That what you got from the aticle? That ThinkProgress thinks the deniers caused the tornadoes? Really?

[speechlesstx]

What did you get out of it?