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    Feb 21, 2011, 12:47 PM
    Ex says 3 y/o daughter argues with ghosts and might let demons in
    My ex is into talking to ghosts and that sort of thing. I understand this is a hobby for some people and can even be a career, BUT I think it is going to far to involve a 3 y/o. My ex has called me and said our daughter is arguing with ghosts and she is afraid the child may unknowingly let in a demon! She has our daughter call me and says over and over "tell daddy what happened" "tell daddy who you talked to". Our daughter just jabbers about something else. She talks all the time like most toddlers do lol. Am I wrong for thinking this is way out of line? I have talked to a lawyer about this and was told this was considered a form of religion and nothing could be done by the courts. I am thinking about trying to prove her unfit because of this.
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    Feb 21, 2011, 01:02 PM
    Does your divorce decree have a stipulation about the religion your child will be raised in? This doesn't sound like any normal religion. As far as your ex being concerned that a child is going to invite demons in, that sounds like a mental health issue. Can you talk to a different lawyer? It sounds like you have some concerns that your child isn't being raised properly.
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    Feb 21, 2011, 02:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by browneyes_21 View Post
    My ex is into talking to ghosts and that sort of thing. I understand this is a hobby for some people and can even be a career, BUT I think it is going to far to involve a 3 y/o. My ex has called me and said our daughter is arguing with ghosts and she is afraid the child may unknowingly let in a demon! She has our daughter call me and says over and over "tell daddy what happened" "tell daddy who you talked to". Our daughter just jabbers about something else. She talks all the time like most toddlers do lol. Am I wrong for thinking this is way out of line? I have talked to a lawyer about this and was told this was considered a form of religion and nothing could be done by the courts. I am thinking about trying to prove her unfit because of this.
    I think this is a bunch of foolishness on her part and I agree with the lawyer - there's nothing that can be "done" about this. You cannot testify to this - it's considered hearsay. Your child would have to discuss this with a neutral third party, such as a guardian ad litem, in order for it to be admissible into the courts.

    Is there something else going on above and beyond this that makes you feel she is an unfit parent? Because this certainly isn't grounds. If she's somehow neglecting or abusing the child, then you'd have a case. Her talking to imaginary beings isn't child abuse.
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    Feb 21, 2011, 04:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by this8384 View Post
    ... You cannot testify to this - it's considered hearsay. Your child would have to discuss this with a neutral third party, such as a guardian ad litem, in order for it to be admissible into the courts. ...
    Incorrect. What the ex said to the OP is not hearsay. And what the child said to the OP would be hearsay (if the point would be to prove she wasn't talking to whomever), is more accurately classified as immaterial.

    But I agree with you. The child's welfare isn't involved here.
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    Feb 21, 2011, 04:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by AK lawyer View Post
    Incorrect. What the ex said to the OP is not hearsay.
    Right, but try to prove she said it. Then it becomes "he said, she said" and we all know how much weight that holds in court.

    Bottomline, as we both agree, is that the child is not being harmed. Quite honestly, I don't think she even knows what's going on at this point. Mommy says one thing, big deal - Dora's on TV, let's watch that instead.

    And to the OP: please don't post the same thing in three different forums. It clutters the board; I've requested that your threads either be combined or pulled.
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    Feb 21, 2011, 07:46 PM

    Well a lot can depend on where you are at, and yes, you can try and get a court order that the ex has to not teach things against your faith or religion. Does not work all the time but does sometimes. Also you may get a judge who things this is harmful to the child,

    If you are seriously worried about it, fight for your rights to be honored also.

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