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    Dec 17, 2010, 05:47 PM
    Electric Range Problems
    When I moved back into my trailer, the stove was not working. When I turned on a burner, the burner light would come on, but the element would not heat. When I turned on the oven, the light would come on, but go out when I turned up the dial and the oven would not heat.
    I bought a new stove and exactly the same thing is happening. The person I was renting to replaced the circuit breaker for the stove, so I am wondering if improper installation of the breaker may be the cause, or is it more likely wiring. The dryer is on the same breaker, and works fine.
    I note the power cable going to the stove comes directly out of the main power box located under the trailer, but still seems to be connected somehow to a 30 amp breaker in the main breaker box.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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    Dec 17, 2010, 09:09 PM
    " the dryer is on the same breaker" I can't imagine that you have both on the same breaker, that's 80 amps! If the light comes on and not the heating, you may have a broken or disconnected wire at the breaker or outlet or a bad breaker or a broken or disconnected wire in what appears to be a junction box under the trailer. A range runs on 120/240, a double breaker. Follow the range wire to the box under the trailer and open it up then trace it back to the breaker box, I believe you will find a separate breaker. BE CAREFUL, you'll be on the ground with 240 Volts in the junction box!
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    Dec 17, 2010, 11:19 PM
    Thanks, I suspected it might be wiring and will check it out. They are definitely on the same breaker, since the lights go off on the stove when I turn off the breaker, and the dryer stops running. Obviously, I have never been able to run both appliances at the same time.
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    Dec 18, 2010, 09:37 AM
    I would give thought to trying to run a separate line to the range. You are most likely overloading the system and may have burned a wire.
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    Dec 18, 2010, 01:50 PM
    Burned wire sounds like a good possibility. It reminded me that when I moved back in all the fuses for the burners on the stove top were black. It may be the renters ran the dryer and stove at the same time although I specifically told them not to.

    Installing a separate wire sounds complicated. They are separate from the junction box, but not from the breakers. Would I need another breaker, what kind of wire would I use, and does anything need to be installed in the junction box?

    Also, if I decide to replace the wire from the junction box to the stove, which may well be the problem, does turning off the main circuit breaker also cut the power to the junction box?

    Needless to say, I am a newbie when it comes to electrical work. Thanks again.
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    Dec 18, 2010, 02:50 PM
    Hey Lynn, I don't know how you have your MH wired so I can't offer any specific wiring solutions. I don't know what is in the junction box under the house. Modern electrical codes require ranges and dryers to be on separate fused or breakered circuits. Sounds like you have both-you mention breakers and "blackened fuses". A standard range requires a dedicated 120/240Volt 50 amp circuit wired with 6/3 wire. A dryer is 30 Amps 120/240V wired with a 10/4 wire or 10/3 if an older dryer, you need to look at the existing outlet. You would need 2 double breakers, a 50A and a 30A or a double tube fuse block, 50A and 30A. Can't tell if you have that capacity in your box. Would need at a bare minimum 100 AMP service. My suggestion would be to have a qualified electrician look things over and give you some options. You have a liability situation with rental property and improper wiring. Well worth the fix cost vs. a lawsuit if a fire were to break out and injure someone. You may be able to switch out for a gas range and dedicate the other circuit to the dryer. Let us know what happens, Brian

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