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    Emily94 Posts: 1,129, Reputation: 64
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    Aug 16, 2010, 09:21 AM
    My mom is a fish killer.
    First my mom didn't check her ammonia levels and put the fish in the pond, one jumped out (were assuming from high ammonia levels, which burnt him) he got a fungal infection and I got it treated and now he is on the road to recovery. Well yesterday she took the cover off the filter to clean it, and for some odd reason, she through the uncovered filter back in the water, the propeller bit cut on of the little fishies face, he has no lips and his one gill is damages (as far as I can see), he still somehow manages to eat and he is swimming fine, but what do I do!! I don't want the poor thing to suffer, but since he seems normal..

    I just don't know!
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    Aug 16, 2010, 10:16 AM

    I think you either take him to a tropical fish store (and, yes, they have them in my area) or you wait and see what happens next.
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:20 PM

    It is kind of dramatic to claim your mother as a fish killer. Fish die very easily...

    If you think your mother does not take care of them well, even though they are your fish then how about you take all the responsibility of taken care of them and see how well you do?
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesushelper76 View Post
    It is kind of dramatic to claim your mother as a fish killer. Fish die very easily...

    If you think your mother does not take care of them well, even though they are your fish then how about you take all the responsibility of taken care of them and see how well you do?

    I know Emily from her various threads and this was VERY tongue in cheek, intended as humor.

    No reason to go on the attack here - she's a teenager, interested in animals and I thought that was one of the better headings.
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:24 PM

    Sorry for your loss! Your mom didn't kill your fish on purpose.
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:26 PM

    Not going on the attack just given advice.
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:28 PM

    I guess it's a difference of opinion but I don't see that "If you think your mother does not take care of them well, even though they are your fish then how about you take all the responsibility of taken care of them and see how well you do?" is anything but critical. I don't see the advice - but then again, you're a relationship expert and I'm an unknown expert and we're both on the fish board.
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:32 PM

    Lol My mom kills my fish too.. I have a tank full of South American cichlids.. once they got bigger, they started fighting. So my mom took out the aggressive fish and put him in a tank with no filteration or air... Nice, huh? Another time one of my fish was injured from a fight. She pulls him out and sticks him in a cylinder type bowl. He had air this time, but anything that is cylinder shaped puts too much pressure on the ears. He ended up dying. She told me she wasn't going to do anything with my fish because she ends up killing them.. About 3 weeks ago, my large pleco died. Instead of pulling him out of the tank, she left his dead body in the tank over night. My oscar lived! Thank god.. but she completely poisoned the tank! I had to do a double water change.. ugh.

    As long as the fish can eat and breath he'll be OK. These guys are relatively tough. You might want to go to the store and get a liquid bandage for fish. You can cover his wounds with it to keep infection out.
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky098 View Post
    lol My mom kills my fish too.. I have a tank full of South American cichlids .. once they got bigger, they started fighting. So my mom took out the aggressive fish and put him in a tank with no filteration or air... Nice, huh? Another time one of my fish was injured from a fight. She pulls him out and sticks him in a cylinder type bowl. He had air this time, but anything that is cylinder shaped puts too much pressure on the ears. He ended up dying. She told me she wasnt going to do anything with my fish because she ends up killing them.. About 3 weeks ago, my large pleco died. Instead of pulling him out of the tank, she left his dead body in the tank over night. My oscar lived! Thank god.. but she completely poisoned the tank! I had to do a double water change.. ugh.

    As long as the fish can eat and breath he'll be ok. These guys are relatively tough. You might want to go to the store and get a liquid bandage for fish. You can cover his wounds with it to keep infection out.


    Lucky is there a liquid bandage for fish?:eek:
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:41 PM

    I believe that people who own pets should know how to take care of them properly, so that they get the love and care that they need. I also believe that if you own a pet, that YOU should be the one who takes care of them, not Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister, etc...

    Not everyone knows how to care for fish and other animals.

    Emily, I would take the fish to the pet/tropical store so that they can give you more info on how you should handle your fishies no lips. I only say that because it might be in pain and suffering.

    Good Luck.
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    I believe that people who own pets should know how to take care of them propperly, so that they get the love and care that they need. I also believe that if you own a pet, that YOU should be the one who takes care of them, not Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister, etc.....

    Not everyone knows how to care for fish and other animals.

    Emily, I would take the fish to the pet/tropical store so that they can give you more info on how you should handle your fishies no lips. I only say that because it might be in pain and suffering.

    Good Luck.



    How can a fish live with no lips?
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:45 PM

    Where does anyone see that these are Emily's fish? I thought this was her mother's fish pond.

    Do you eat fish? I was vegetarian for quite a while. I still don't eat fish based on the fact that they suffocate. There's no quick kill.
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Where does anyone see that these are Emily's fish? I thought this was her mother's fish pond.

    Do you eat fish? I was vegetarian for quite a while. I still don't eat fish based on the fact that they suffocate. There's no quick kill.



    No... Not suffocate? They do suffocate! Hadn't even thought of that? How can I ever eat Catfish again:eek:
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    Aug 16, 2010, 12:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    No...Not suffocate? They do suffocate! Hadn't even thought of that? How can I ever eat Catfish again:eek:
    I thought Kitty Kats like fishies. Lol;)
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    Aug 16, 2010, 01:02 PM

    Woah, This is my mom's fish , and obviously if I am on here asking I am looking for help for them and not wanting them to suffer. Also Jesushelper, I have my own fish tank with over 60 fish in it, none have died, so I can raise fish just fine thanks.

    "I believe that people who own pets should know how to take care of them properly, so that they get the love and care that they need. I also believe that if you own a pet, that YOU should be the one who takes care of them, not Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister, etc....."

    Now, usually I am not one to get mad about a post, but this makes me infuriated. If you knew anything before making assumptions you would know that I am 16 years old, the ONLY reason I have a job is to take care of the animals I own. I buy the food, the bedding, the toys, pay the vet bills (Which have amounted to over $3000 alone this year), research the best food for them , give up going out with friends because my dog needs a haircut or my ferret's need there cage scrubbed, I give my animals my time and energy, I love all of my pets dearly and would give my own life to save them. I help whenever I can with My mom's animals but I have my own to care for. I helped pay for her dog when he needed vet care , I paid to have him put down to end his 2 years of suffering, I paid for him to be cremated so she could always have him with her. Now please do not going around making assumtions on how I raise MY animals based a 2 sentence question about someone else's fish!

    And by the way, none of the fish have died I have went out and bought the medication, the ammonia tests, the ph test, EVERYTHING to get them healthy! So technically no, my mom isn't a fish killer, it is a JOKE haha? No you probably don't get it.

    Anyway, thanks for the suggestions and I guess it's off to the fish store I go :)
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    Aug 16, 2010, 01:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Emily94 View Post
    Woah, This is my mom's fish , and obviously if I am on here asking I am looking for help for them and not wanting them to suffer. Also Jesushelper, I have my own fish tank with over 60 fish in it, none have died, so I can raise fish just fine thanks.

    "I believe that people who own pets should know how to take care of them properly, so that they get the love and care that they need. I also believe that if you own a pet, that YOU should be the one who takes care of them, not Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister, etc....."

    Now, usually I am not one to get mad about a post, but this makes me infuriated. If you knew anything before making assumptions you would know that I am 16 years old, the ONLY reason I have a job is to take care of the animals I own. I buy the food, the bedding, the toys, pay the vet bills (Which have amounted to over $3000 alone this year), research the best food for them , give up going out with friends because my dog needs a haircut or my ferret's need there cage scrubbed, I give my animals my time and energy, I love all of my pets dearly and would give my own life to save them. I help whenever I can with My mom's animals but I have my own to care for. I helped pay for her dog when he needed vet care , I paid to have him put down to end his 2 years of suffering, I paid for him to be cremated so she could always have him with her. Now please do not going around making assumtions on how I raise MY animals based a 2 sentence question about someone else's fish!

    And by the way, none of the fish have died I have went out and bought the medication, the ammonia tests, the ph test, EVERYTHING to get them healthy! So technically no, my mom isn't a fish killer, it is a JOKE haha? No you probably don't get it.

    Anyways, thanks for the suggestions and I guess it's off to the fish store I go :)
    I was making a blanket statement.

    I don't know who's fish this is, whether they are yours, your Mothers, or the neighbors. I do, however, believe that people who do own pets should know how to care for them. Don't you agree?

    When I opened my statement, it was with "I believe" not "Emily" That is what I mean by blanket statement. I am sorry if I offended you. Not my intention.

    I can clearly see that you do care, or else you wouldn't be here asking.

    If they do belong to Mom, then perhaps she get a book or utilize the internet for more research on who to care for those types of fish, or any for that matter.

    Again, sorry if I offended you.
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    Aug 16, 2010, 01:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma1999 View Post
    I believe that people who own pets should know how to take care of them propperly, so that they get the love and care that they need. I also believe that if you own a pet, that YOU should be the one who takes care of them, not Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister, etc......

    I think the capital YOU is the trigger here -
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    Aug 16, 2010, 02:10 PM

    I had a goldfish a few years back who had a deformed mouth. One side completely caved in so when you looked at him straight on his mouth made like a crescent moon shape. He was like that when I got him as an adult fish. He had a hard life, a friend of my mothers had 2 of them and they lived in a dogs water bowl... yes that's right, a dogs water bowl. She never fed them, they just eat the bits of food that fell out the dogs mouths when they drank. How they didn't get eaten is beyond me.

    Anyway, after I 'saved' him he was fine, he could eat OK I just had to crush up the flake smaller for him. I had him for quite a few years before he finally died.
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    Aug 16, 2010, 02:12 PM

    Am I the only person who didn't know fish have lips? Of course, I never really thought about it at all.
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    Aug 16, 2010, 02:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Am I the only person who didn't know fish have lips? Of course, I never really thought about it at all.
    They sort of look like Barney Fife. I mean the big fish do. The big eyes and the big lips. Bless their heart.:)

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