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    Jul 30, 2010, 10:02 AM
    Mn took my 9 day old daughter
    If one child was taken the welfare has the right to take another.plenty gov.pass this law.I was never notifyed by the courts or my court apointed atterny.that I had 20 days to make a appeal.by law this was never done.what can you do.my other child was taken in ia due to.no insurance.to do what welfare whanted me to do.plus my son.was taken wrongfully by dhs.my court apointed atternys. Were with and for the courts. No matter if I was in the right.im indian.and I was never charged with any child indangerment.so they had no write to take my son.they did leave my older son wiuth us . They were more interested in my 3 year old and wanted to adopt him out.it was like being a` kid snatcher on the welfares part. We were visiting mn.then they took our 9 day old daughter.saying its `a law.we weren't living here.the judge don't care.
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    Jul 30, 2010, 10:41 AM

    What country do you live in, saxony ? Lets start there.

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    Jul 30, 2010, 11:18 AM

    He's in Minnesota - from what I can tell.

    I have no idea what your legal question is. Apparently you and your wife were also arrested. https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/crime/...ed-493383.html

    We need more information.

    I've worked in the legal system for a long time and I've NEVER heard of a child taken from the parents because the parents didn't have insurance. Never!

    There is something else at play here. Again, we need more details.
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    Jul 30, 2010, 11:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    He's in Minnesota - from what I can tell.

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    I had considered that, but then thought it meant (mn) some government body as she/he was mentioning welfare, etc. He/she said 'indian', I am assuming native indian and have a hunch its Canada. We will see.

    MN is on the Canadian border, easy to visit.

    Edit: see, I can 'detect' too :cool:

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    Jul 30, 2010, 11:31 AM

    Quote Originally Posted by saxony View Post
    some police in willmer mni
    I guess it is Willmar,Mn
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    Jul 30, 2010, 11:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by GV70 View Post
    I guess it is Willmar,Mn
    I think that's where were visiting when the baby was snatched.

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    Jul 30, 2010, 11:45 AM

    I am in doubt...
    If he is a subject of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth/I mean he is Canadian/ the state of Minnesota does not have jurisdiction to put his children for adoption.They have to transfer the case to the Court in Canada.
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    Jul 30, 2010, 02:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by GV70 View Post
    I am in doubt...
    If he is a subject of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth/I mean he is Canadian/ the state of Minnesota does not have jurisdiction to put his children for adoption.They have to transfer the case to the Court in Canada.
    Yes, well, if they are native indian in Canada, this is a whole different cdn. Government issue, especially with children. We will see. I hope the OP comes back so we can try to help out, but native Canadian relations are at an all time impasse now with land claims. (Yes I know this is off topic) but with the Canadian govt and indian relations it is all inter-twined.

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    Jul 30, 2010, 04:53 PM

    I doubt they are from Canada. Willmar is not even close to Canada, although they could have been visiting. There are closer reservations, even the White Earth reservation - if they are from a reservation at all.

    File:Kandiyohi County Minnesota Incorporated and Unincorporated areas Willmar Highlighted.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I do agree with everyone - there is much more to this than what the OP is saying.
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    Jul 30, 2010, 06:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bleusong52 View Post
    I doubt they are from Canada. Willmar is not even close to Canada, although they could have been visiting. There are closer reservations, even the White Earth reservation - if they are from a reservation at all.

    File:Kandiyohi County Minnesota Incorporated and Unincorporated areas Willmar Highlighted.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I do agree with everyone - there is much more to this than what the OP is saying.
    Yes this is saxony .a minn.native born and raised here.im indian .half white.I look more native.im married to a white lady.it all started in willmer minn.the pd said I could drive after giving me a breath teast.so I drove.my wife was with me.we decided to go to a restaurant in willmer.thats when I got out and headed to the door.my wife was getting out of car.a cop car.pulls up and threw me to the ground and.hog tied me.after being put in the car.they delt with my wife saying to here what are you married to a indian for you blanking white blank.she was thrown against the bumper of the car.she bleed for a week threw here preagnancy.I was taken in to jail. And beaten .we both reported and had pitures taken .nothing came out of it.in minneapolis jail three officials had pin me against the wall.and took turns beating me up they had to call the ambulance.yes nothing was done.in stcloud minn.theyfractured my wife's wrist .and told me to go back to the blank reservation.they pulled a big wad of hair out.I was in the froont page of the paper .these cops never sat a day in jail.then they track us down.and the n
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    Jul 30, 2010, 07:51 PM

    So have you contacted a civil rights attorney? A family law attorney? A criminal law attorney? You know there are legal aid attorneys.

    Where are the police reports? If the police did this to you and your wife for the mere fact that you are bi-racial and she is white - you know that there is an attorney waiting to take this case.
    Someone like Skip Humphrey.

    Who has your baby?
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    Jul 31, 2010, 12:12 AM

    Quote Originally Posted by saxony View Post
    imy other child was taken in ia due to.no insurance.to do what welfare whanted me to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by saxony View Post
    .i was taken in to jail. and beaten .we both reported and had pitures taken .nothing came out of it.in minneapolis jail three officials had pin me against the wall.and took turns beating me up they had to call the ambulance.yes nothing was done.in stcloud minn.theyfractured my wifes wrist .and told me to go back to the blank reservation.they pulled a big wad of hair out.i was in the froont page of the paper .these cops never sat a day in jail.then they track us down.and the n
    In my point of view there are other factors there.I guess it is a half of the truth.
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    Jul 31, 2010, 06:36 AM

    I'm guessing 1/3 truthful -
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    Jul 31, 2010, 07:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bleusong52 View Post
    So have you contacted a civil rights attorney? A family law attorney? A criminal law attorney? You know there are legal aid attorneys.

    Where are the police reports? If the police did this to you and your wife for the mere fact that you are bi-racial and she is white - you know that there is an attorney waiting to take this case.
    Someone like Skip Humphrey.

    Who has your baby?
    The welfare has my child.the mn law is if you lost one child .they have the right to take any other child.it was past 2 years ago.thank god my others turned 18.they took the baby thanks to plenty passing the law I gather he is at falt.he wouldn't like it if someone took his child.its over a stupid law.my court apointed or the courts never informed me or my wife we had twenty days to apeal.now its to late.the cop cracked me on the head with a tazer gun.said to me we don't need indians living here.prior of baby being born.
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    Jul 31, 2010, 07:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by saxony View Post
    the welfare has my child.the mn law is if you lost one child .they have the right to take any other child.it was past 2 years ago.thank god my others turned 18.they took the baby thanks to plenty passing the law i gather he is at falt.he wouldnt like it if someone took his child.its over a stupid law.my court apointed or the courts never informed me or my wife we had twenty days to apeal.now its to late.the cop cracked me on the head with a tazer gun.said to me we dont need indians living here.prior of baby being born.
    plus I got beaten in wilmer mn .mineapolise mn jail.stcloud by police I asked legislaters to pass a law.were there is no statues.to take these cops to pay what they did.they tell me it would corrupt the justice department.all my problems come from the abusive cops and lheriffs.not all are abusive .only some
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    Jul 31, 2010, 07:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bleusong52 View Post
    So have you contacted a civil rights attorney? A family law attorney? A criminal law attorney? You know there are legal aid attorneys.

    Where are the police reports? If the police did this to you and your wife for the mere fact that you are bi-racial and she is white - you know that there is an attorney waiting to take this case.
    Someone like Skip Humphrey.

    Who has your baby?
    The legal aid don't help human rights don't help .public deffender don't help he is only there for the record he didn't want me to bring witnesses into court.I asked the judge for a different atterney I was denied.or hire you're own wich is 5000.00 I don't have the funs.plus the judge is friends with the welfare bios.he wouldent remove himself .there out for the money for adoption.we never did anything wrong.
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    Jul 31, 2010, 09:33 PM

    Hi saxony, I know you must be on here to get this off your chest but what exactly are you doing about your situation. You say you don't have the money, and I can appreciate that. Are you actually getting anything out of the input from others?

    I am curious ?

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    Aug 1, 2010, 06:34 AM

    I agree with Tickle - you asked what to do. I told you several times - contact a Civil Rights Attorney.

    What else do you need/want to know?
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    Aug 4, 2010, 07:34 AM

    Have you contacted AIM? AIM has a fairly large presence in Minnesota and I KNOW they have attorneys.
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    Aug 7, 2010, 02:03 PM
    I can't aford a atterny.plus was not prepared.with the funds for atterny.only get court apointed atterny.he was no good.the family judge wouldent allow me a different court apointed one.my court apointed one was with the courts b.not for me and my wife.he wouldn't lety us bring witnesses in top court.about how well we take care of our baby. And the judge was good friends with the welfare. The judge didn't care.in court he frowned when he seen im indian and my wife was white.the reasones.why he took our child was not even mentioned in court.that he put on his order for the welfare. To keep the child that was 9 days old.my court apointed atterny said the same and told me and my wife that he no longer repersents us.so ive tried to hire attrny and can't afford one legal aid and humen rights won't help.baby was taken wrongfully.

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