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Junior Member
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Jun 2, 2010, 03:13 PM
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Right to die?
Hello Everyone,
Does a Christian have God's approval to end their life if the are terminally sick?
Thank you,
Hope12
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Dating & Teen Expert
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Jun 2, 2010, 03:19 PM
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I don't know. Personally I think that is between the individual and GOD
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Ultra Member
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Jun 5, 2010, 06:59 AM
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I don't think anyone has the right to take their own life. However, I am not opposed to someone being made comfortable if they are suffering.
Do I think that if someone did choose to end their suffering that they would automatically go to hell? No way. As long as they have put their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ there is nothing they can do to lose their salvation.
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Junior Member
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Jun 6, 2010, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by classyT
I don't think anyone has the right to take their own life. However, I am not oppossed to someone being made comfortable if they are suffering.
Do I think that if somone did choose to end their suffering that they would automatically go to hell? No way. As long as they have put their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ there is nothing they can do to lose their salvation.
Hello,
I agree that no one has the right to take their own life. To be made comfortable is good however I believe that to take a persons own life or even a doctor taking a life of someone terminally ill is wrong and not approved by God. I do not believe hell to be a place of eternal tourment but -the common grave that all people who die go -to.
Thank you,
Hope12
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Uber Member
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Jun 6, 2010, 03:57 PM
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Palliative care.
Anyway, I think we should all do our best to love and comfort individuals that are sick and ill.
The thing is medicine and medical science have so many medications and other ways to comfort people in pain so it is not has hard.
Never want to see anybody suffer but people do get sick or ill and grow older with more health problems.
For myself personally to be kept alive by a machine if that is the only thing that is keeping me alive. Do you think my wishes of pulling the plug and letting me go. Do you think that means I am going against Gods wishes?
I think there are so many grey issues that could come up with this debate. You can certainly feel for the family involved or people involved in care to carry through with the wishes of somebody.
You know what though, we are NOT to JUDGE. Whether God is understanding of it or not, or is it wrong or not. None of us will really know will we.
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Expert
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Jun 6, 2010, 04:08 PM
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The bible does not give us the right to take our own life, the body we are told is the temple of the holy spirit, so taking ones own life is against God's will.
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Uber Member
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Jun 6, 2010, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
The bible does not give us the right to take our own life, the body we are told is the temple of the holy spirit, so taking ones own life is against God's will.
God gave us life and when he's ready to take us it will be his choice not ours.
Trust in him and know he makes no mistakes. You are in my prayers and I wish I could give you words of comfort. Blessings... Kit:)
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Dating & Teen Expert
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Jun 6, 2010, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
The bible does not give us the right to take our own life, the body we are told is the temple of the holy spirit, so taking ones own life is against God's will.
So is watching porn and masturbating if you go with the "body being God's temple thing" I don't think God is thrilled with that either. We do a lot of things that abuse the temple. Over eating being another one. Some could say controlling conception is abusing the temple too.
When terminal people are suffering I see no problem with easing them in to death, which is a continuation of life when you think about it. But that's between that person and God.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Jun 6, 2010, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Homegirl 50
Some could say controlling conception is abusing the temple too.
Having baby after baby, being pregnant multiple times, is abusing the body too plus depriving each child of individual attention and parenting.
Some could say that getting perms and wearing makeup and using hair color and painting one's nails are all abuses of the body.
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Uber Member
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Jun 6, 2010, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Homegirl 50
So is watching porn and masturbating if you go with the "body being God's temple thing" I don't think God is thrilled with that either. We do a lot of things that abuse the temple. Over eating being another one. Some could say controlling conception is abusing the temple too.
When terminal people are suffering I see no problem with easing them in to death, which is a continuation of life when you think about it. But that's between that person and God.
Homegirl... yes those things are wrong... but the OP was speaking of someone taking a life if they are terminally ill. I don't think it's up to anyone to take their life. God has a plan... none of us know what it is..
I certainly am not questioning your beleifs.. but God is in control and he should be the one who takes us home when it's our time. Blessings to you... :)
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Jun 6, 2010, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kitkat22
Homegirl...yes those things are wrong...but the OP was speaking of someone taking a life if they are terminally ill. I don't think it's up to anyone to take their life. God has a plan...none of us know what it is..
I certainly am not questioning your beleifs..but God is in control and he should be the one who takes us home when it's our time. Blessings to you...:)
I think it's even more than that. Being sick and even dying and how one handles those two situations can be a powerful witness to the walking-around living. I was in the hospital three times last fall, and could tell you stories until the cows come home. Pull up a chair... :)
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Uber Member
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Jun 6, 2010, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I think it's even more than that. Being sick and even dying and how one handles those two situations can be a powerful witness to the living. I was in the hospital three times last fall, and could tell you stories until the cows come home. Pull up a chair.... :)
It's hard to sit and watch someone die... I know... I prayed for God to please let my Dad live. I prayed with everything I had. When he finally took him home.. it took me years to realize he took him to his reward. He wasn't in constant pain anymore. God took him when it was time. Thanks WG... I hope we get to share some of our stories someday... Hugs and love to you... Kitty
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Dating & Teen Expert
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Jun 6, 2010, 06:13 PM
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I agree that how we handle death and illness can be a witness to the living but I also believe that if you don't have the whatever it takes to suffer, what you chose to do is between you and God.
And to use the "body is God's temple" excuse doesn't wash because we do a lot of things that abuse that temple, including having more kids that we can take care of.
I believe the body is God's temple, but we cannot say that applies to one instance and not another. We don't have the power or the right to pick.
I would like to think that if I were in that position that I could go gracefully or if someone close to me were, they could go gracefully, but if they cannot, if they have had a talk with God who am I to say what God's answer was. I am of course only speaking of terminally ill people.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Jun 6, 2010, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Homegirl 50
terminally ill people.
We're all terminally ill. The minute we're born, we're on our way to the grave.
I have a very high pain threshold. What might hurt you might not phase me. So suffering is relative.
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Uber Member
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Jun 6, 2010, 06:21 PM
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[QUOTEI would like to think that if I were in that position that I could go gracefully or if someone close to me were, they could go gracefully, but if they cannot, if they have had a talk with God who am I to say what God's answer was. I am of course only speaking of terminally ill people.[/QUOTE]
I've always said if I were in a terminally ill state I wouldn't want to linger.. but I wouldn't want to take my life. I know God has a reason for me being kept alive even though I would be in pain. I would hope I would go into a coma as my dad did and wake up in heaven. I think suicide is a sin.. it's making decisions for yourself that only God should make... Hugs Homegirl... Kit
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Jun 6, 2010, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Kitkat22
even though I would be in pain.
Actually, you probably wouldn't be in pain. There are some very lovely pain meds out there now. Very lovely. If you're in pain, it might be more emotional or spiritual, rather than physical -- if you are even aware of what's going on.
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Dating & Teen Expert
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Jun 6, 2010, 06:29 PM
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Suffering is relative, but I would not say that to a young person suffering and at the end of life.
Yes we are all dying but I would not say that to a person with pancreatic cancer in pain and at the end of life.
I don't think there is anything wrong with easing that kind of pain if that is what that person has asked, and who am I to say that person did not have their talk with God?
One thing about God He deals with us where we are and individually. What He holds one person to, he may not the next one.
I know that life is sacred and I respect the sanctity of life, I'm just saying there are times when things may be between one person and God.
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Dating & Teen Expert
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Jun 6, 2010, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Actually, you probably wouldn't be in pain. There are some very lovely pain meds out there now. Very lovely. If you're in pain, it might be more emotional or spiritual, rather than physical -- if you are even aware of what's going on.
And if that is the case that is fine!
I don't think people ought to have to suffer like that if that suffering can be eased. I guess that is what I'm saying. People ought to be able to die with dignity. There is noting dignifying about unnecessary pain unless that is their wish.
Only God knows the heart of man and only He knows how much we can bear.
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Uber Member
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Jun 6, 2010, 06:42 PM
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I think the Bible is the same for all of us. He didn't make a different set of rules for different people.
Lets just agree to having different ideas. You and I have a right to have different opinions. Blessings... Kit
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Ultra Member
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Jun 6, 2010, 08:03 PM
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Let me put this question another way, Is murder against Gods will? Is suicide the same as murder?
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