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    May 6, 2010, 07:02 AM
    Chicago Schools
    Chi-town's school system is a disgrace and a mess. The personal feifdom of the Daley family ,it has consistently underperformed with students going on the achieve a batchelor degree about half the national average;with a high dropout rates, with around half of students failing to graduate for the past 30 years. Chicago Public Schools - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Not only that,but the Daley's seem to go out of their way to keep standards down. There was the case of Paul Vallas who refused to allow 7th graders to advance if they were illiterate or couldn't read up to standards . Daley had him replaced .By almost every account I've read ,the system is a broken basket case.

    The Chicago Tribune reports that efforts to give choice and alternatives to the parents and students have been squashed by the teacher's unions.
    School vouchers goes down in Illinois House - chicagotribune.com
    A measure to let students in Chicago’s worst-performing and most-overcrowded elementary schools use taxpayer-funded vouchers to attend private schools was defeated in the Illinois House on Wednesday, giving teachers unions a major victory.
    Support for the measure was bipartisan and emotional . There was desperation in the pleas made during the debate as if this was one last chance to salvage some kind of life for the children of the city.
    Fighting back tears during the lengthy debate, Rep. Suzanne Bassi, R-Palatine, called on fellow lawmakers to “search your souls” to support the measure because “we have failed these kids in the inner-city schools.”

    “I’m pleading with you,” said Rep. Ken Dunkin, D-Chicago, who represents an area with four public schools where students would have been eligible for vouchers. “I’m begging you. Help me help kids in my district.”
    But such a move could have an effect of reforming a political system in the city based on old school patronage and spoil.

    This bucks a trend statewide that has shown an increased use of the charter school alternative.Last year the number of charters increased from 30 to 45 schools .

    It is of course understandable why the teacher's unions would oppose this. Charter school teachers are held accountable . Teachers there are non-union ,receive no tenure ,and are results oriented .
    Chicago Public Schools' Charter Schools Performance Report for 2004­2005

    It seems nationwide there is a fullcourt press by the liberal establishment to either minimize the reputation of charters ,or in the case of the DC school district where Chi-town pol/now President Barak Obama and his Democrat majority cronies have the final say,to kill them outright.

    But eventually they will have to answer the question ;what (and who)benefits in keeping inner city students stupid ?
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    May 6, 2010, 07:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Chi-town's school system is a disgrace and a mess.
    Hello tom:

    I don't know why you picked Chicago, unless your disdain for anything Obama has something to do with it. Our education system is broken everywhere.

    excon
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    May 6, 2010, 07:18 AM

    I picked Chicago because the vote there was CURRENT EVENTS .
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    May 6, 2010, 07:44 AM
    Gee ex, even I got that part about an Illinois measure being defeated YESTERDAY. If you weren't so busy with your disdain for everything conservative you might have picked up on that.

    We'll likely be waiting a long time for those responsible for this failure to answer your question, what (and who) benefits in keeping inner city students stupid, but we must keep asking the question. As Walter Williams said in his latest column, "If the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan wanted to sabotage black academic excellence, he could not find a more effective means to do so than the government school system in most cities."
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    May 6, 2010, 08:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Gee ex, even I got that part about an Illinois measure being defeated YESTERDAY. If you weren't so busy with your disdain for everything conservative you might have picked up on that.

    We'll likely be waiting a long time for those responsible for this failure to answer your question, what (and who) benefits in keeping inner city students stupid, but we must keep asking the question.
    Hello again, Steve:

    Yeah, I missed that part. I was busy looking for something righty to put down. Guess what? I found it. Here it is, and you don't have to wait a long time at all. I have the answers, like I always do.

    When I was in school, we had a civics class. Because of that, I know how the country works. But, when you remove civics from the classroom, the people don't know how the system works, any more. Then they can propose real stupid stuff, like Leiberman just did, and THE DUMB PEOPLE WON'T HAVE A CLUE THAT OUR CONSTITUTION FORBIDS IT. As a matter of fact, if the people don't know what WE, as a nation, are really about, they'll sit back while it's destroyed - kind of like what happened during the Bush years.

    excon

    PS> Am I saying that if you're educated, you'll be more like me?? Yup!
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    May 6, 2010, 08:16 AM

    They probably still have civics classes, but when you teach it from a postmodern multicultural viewpoint you get dumb people that don't have a clue.
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    May 6, 2010, 08:17 AM

    the dumb people won't have a clue that our constitution forbids it.
    Should i answer this here or on your op?
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    May 6, 2010, 08:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Should I answer this here or on your OP?
    Hello tom:

    Choose your poison.

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    May 6, 2010, 08:55 AM

    OK my reply is here https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...st2342253reply

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