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    Apr 21, 2008, 07:18 AM
    What does he really mean?
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    I am 24 years old and have been seeing a 31 year old guy for quite some time. We were together and I thought it was going well, but our families are really close so we decided to break it off before it got serious and we hurt the family. We were still friends. Things led to one another and we hooked back up 7 months later. Now things were going good. We were spending lots of time with each other. All of a sudden he said he didn't see us together. I'm confused. His actions, his behavior all say something different. My gut is telling me that its not me, its his hesitancy for a commitment. I think he's scared to get into a serious relationship. I mean we get along great. We can talk for hours without any effort. We laugh, joke around, and are physically into each other. His closest friends know about us. He told me he feels very comfortable around me and can tell me more things than he has told anyone. I don't know how to react or what to understand. Please help.
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    Apr 21, 2008, 07:48 AM
    Well, maybe he is going threw something right now and he doesn't want to hurt you some how. Sometimes this comes up. All you have to do is wait for a few weeks a maybe and see if he is ready to get back to being friends with you like you used to.
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    Apr 21, 2008, 02:30 PM
    How can I tell how he really feels? Are there any signs to look for to pick up signals of if he sees me more than a friend?
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    Apr 21, 2008, 02:48 PM
    Yes, you do know how to react and how to respond. He's a man. You go with who he is, what he does and how he stands up for the things he believes in. These are observable by his actions.

    You react to what he does... lovingly and appropriately for YOU. You don't try to "girlfriendize" him by making him be a chatty-Kathy about relationships and you DEFINITELY don't try and decode what he says into ANYTHING other than exactly what he said. Exactly what he said.

    That last point is critical. He isn't thinking this stuff through nearly as much as you, regardless of what his discussions with you indicate. He's feeling his way along, like any guy. Hang out with him long enough and you can easily decode his actions, they're what you trust.
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    Apr 21, 2008, 03:18 PM
    Thanks.. that makes sense.. but explain one thing to me . If he says what he feels, then why is it that one day he is telling me his friends, his family all see us together and that he feels comfortable around me.. more than he has felt with any of his other gfs. And the very next day he is like I don't see us together. Can his feelings all of a sudden change or is that just an excuse to avoid getting serious?
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    Apr 21, 2008, 03:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by confusionmax
    thanks.. that makes sense.. but explain one thing to me . if he says what he feels, then why is it that one day he is telling me his friends, his family all see us together and that he feels comfortable around me.. more than he has felt with any of his other gfs. and the very next day he is like i dont see us together. can his feelings all of a sudden change or is that just an excuse to avoid getting serious?
    Can feelings suddenly change? Of course they can, you don't need us to tell you that.

    Can he say one thing one day and another the next? Sure, of course he can. He may not even be contradicting himself if you quote HIM exactly and in context to whom he was talking with and the exact topic of the moment. It's perfectly possible. Truly.

    That's why you gauge a man by what he does, not what he says.

    He could say he hates your guts, never sees you two being together, and then follow that with months and months of thoughtful, caring, doting, loving behavior.

    The opposite is FAR more common and ignored by women all the time - guys who say loving, sappy things, and are absolutely horrible to the girl when you actually pay attention.

    Follow what he does. Respond to that. Encourage and engage all those behaviors that say he loves you, and calmly, quietly let his verbal admonishments about not being together be said and continue on. Men are honest with their hands, not so much their mouths.

    Eventually the words may match, but for now, go with what it is most reliable.
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    Apr 21, 2008, 08:04 PM
    Sounds to me like he has no idea what he wants and until he decides one way or another you are wasting your time and could end up getting hurt by getting your hopes up.
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    Apr 22, 2008, 10:11 AM
    I kind of feel the same way.. that he doesn't know what he wants. He is very reluctant to get into anything serious because he's trying to replace someone else. Which he cannot do, because that person is unique. Everyone is different. I consider him a v good friend and want to tell him this, but I don't want him to take it the wrong way. I'm OK with the fact we're not together anymore.. but I know he's hurting. I really want to tell him that he needs to move on and give someone else a chance.. not necessarily me. He needs to let that other person go and instead of finding someone who can replace her, he should look for someone he feels good around. But I'm wondering if I should. Or should I wait a few weeks before I say anything? Should I just ignore it and let him fig things out on his own?
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    Apr 22, 2008, 12:16 PM
    Girl is that your first boyfriend or what every man will tell you what they think you will love to hear at that time to sleep with you he got what he won't from you now he is finish with you and now he is going to the next person SO HOW YOU DOING
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    Apr 22, 2008, 12:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mary lalsley
    girl is that your first boyfriend or what every man will tell you what they think you will love to hear at that time to sleep with you he got what he won't from you now he is finish with you and now he is going to the next person SO HOW YOU DOING

    Lol no he's not my 1st boyfriend.. but he is my best friend. I know that I can pick up the phone rite now and he'd be there for me in a heartbeat. The same goes the other way.. so I know he wasn't in this to get something. He's much bigger than that. Its just I'm afraid ill lose my best friend as well. And I really don't know how to start the friendship back without bringing up old feelings and memories if he doesn't feel the same.
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    Apr 23, 2008, 09:48 PM
    Pure curiosity
    I have been going through many different threads trying to figure things out. After reading these, a thought jumped in my mind and I was wondering what others felt about it. I noticed a lot of break ups involve people coming back. I mean, the guy or the girl breaks up with the other. Then the other strongly avoids all forms of communication. Eventually the guy or girl comes back, asking for another chance. Is my assumption correct? Has this happened to many people? Did things work out afterwards? Just curious.
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    Apr 24, 2008, 07:32 AM
    OK.. I've accepted the fact its over... and I think I've gotten a pretty good handle over my feelings. Now we are really good friends, and I don't want our friendship to end. And he told me to take a break if I needed and then become friends again. How long should I wait before contacting him again without losing our level of friendship?
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    Apr 24, 2008, 02:36 PM
    It does happen. It usually DOESN'T happen.

    Most dating relationships end with permanent separation. This isn't because either or both persons didn't/don't love or because they're not nice people. No, it's because staying together long term isn't about love or niceness. It's about compatibility.

    You're going to have to date a LOT of people to find someone who is actually compatible in a way that you can stay close together. You'll like everyone you date, you'll LOVE many of them, most will be nice, some will be wonderfully sweet... and in the end all of that won't matter if you two can't make a go of it in the compatibility department.

    So, don't be so hard on yourself or your dates when things don't work out. They usually won't.

    The No Contact thing after breakups is smart mainly because it doesn't needlessly prolong feelings that are still there and can't be helped when the relationship doesn't really work. On a rare occasion, reconciliation at a later time does work out, but usually not. I wouldn't spend any time counting on it.
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    Apr 27, 2008, 05:16 PM
    I agree. I think the worst thing you can do after a break up is hold off for them to come back. Not talking to the person should be something to help you move on, and is not a tool to bring the other person back. You may get their attention, but it probably won't be in the way that you wanted. I personally don't know of any relationships that have gotten back together after a real break up.
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    Apr 27, 2008, 06:22 PM
    Many people keep no contact and move on.
    If you break up and really want them back it is a gamble because they might not want to work it out after you break up.
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    Apr 30, 2008, 08:15 AM
    I guess u guys are rite... its better to forgive and forget and move on. Then see what else life throws at u and pray u have the strength to handle the situation. :)
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    Jun 30, 2008, 11:37 AM
    Back to normal?
    I've been friends with someone for about a year and a half now. We became really good friends.. things led to one another, we hooked up. We split after about a month of dating then were trying to be just friends. We would have little talks once a week maybe once every two weeks. We would see each other and act normal. 5 months later we started getting closer and hooked up. This time I thought it was going somewhere until we split. The way it happened and when it happened, I kind of lost a little respect for him. He told me he was confused and needed sometime and I decided I was going to keep my distance. We both wanted to stay friends. We went through a period of no communication to very little communication. I went away for a while and would sometimes get a text or e-mail from him. I came back and he started to call more often. I replied, but I never initiated a call. I just replied to his. He told me once or twice jokingly that I've become cocky and stuff. Now he called and asked me to do something for him. I know its something he hasn't told anyone else. He trusted me enough to tell me about it and ask me my opinion. Now my questions are... is he being nice only so I do this for him? Or he really does trust me? Is he trying to get close to me again or is it just my imagination? He is very secretive at times. How do I know what he really wants?
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    Jun 30, 2008, 12:49 PM
    If you do not feel comfortable doing the 'something' for him then don't.
    Follow your instincts.
    He could very easily just be wanting you to do whatever for him and have you on a 'need only' basis where he only calls you when he wants something.
    Ask yourself questions like would it take away from my time, my needs to help him
    Would I feel used if he never does call again.
    Can I do this for him without feeling used if he doesn't bother with me again.
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    Jun 30, 2008, 01:16 PM
    You know that's dangerous. Friends with benefits has many different definitions, but you know what I am getting at. I would be very cautious about doing that "something" that you are being asked to do. It is often that people find kind hearted people and take the kindness for weakness. Can I be nosey and ask what that "something" is. It really does make a difference in the answer.
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    Jun 30, 2008, 02:07 PM
    The "something" is help him research for something. He calls we talk about other thinks.. he'll ask me how I am and what I've been up to and stuff. He'll remember everything too. In follow up calls he'll ask me what happened with so and so.. and did you get what you wanted... but then we'll talk about the research. I don't mind doing it.. but just confused as to what is really happening. Is there another motive or am I just being paranoid?

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