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tootsierhinohum · Oct 5, 2009, 08:30 AM

I need to know the difference of a basement floor toilet and standard one so I can order it! How do I measure the rough in without takg the toilet off the floor right now?

ballengerb1 · Oct 5, 2009, 08:40 AM

A basement toilet can be a standard toilet unless you are thinking of a saniflow which pumps the sewage up to a drain line. If you just mean how far it is offset from the wall so can see from the side on most. You will see the snaking curvature that makes your trap. That curve eventually starightens out and goes straight dow, Run a tape measure from the wall to the approximate center of that snakes termination. Most toilets are between 10 and 14" ( 80% are 12 ") but there are some surprises out there

tootsierhinohum · Oct 5, 2009, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by ballengerb1

A basement toilet can be a standard toilet unless you are thinking of a saniflow which pumps the sewage up to a drain line. If you just mean how far it is offset from the wall so can see from the side on most. You will see the snaking curvature that makes your trap. That curve eventually starightens out and goes straight dow, Run a tape measure from the wall to the approximate center of that snakes termination. Most toilets are between 10 and 14" ( 80% are 12 ") but there are some surprises out there

Thank you for respondg so quick! Unfortunately there isn't an outside curve to show where the drain goes down, it's a 94 model that's straight sided. I can't even find a brand name on the darn thing! As long as I go with a 12-14" rough in I should be all right?

ballengerb1 · Oct 5, 2009, 09:13 AM

Not so quick, they aren't sold with wiggle room. A 12" would fit in place of a 14" but would stand off the wall by at least 2". A 14" can't be installed at all to replace a 12". Brand is usually right between the seat attachments to the toilet, they all have them. A picture might help.

Milo Dolezal · Oct 5, 2009, 09:23 AM

Post a photo. We will ID it for you...

tootsierhinohum · Oct 5, 2009, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by ballengerb1

Not so quick, they aren't sold with wiggle room. A 12" would fit in place of a 14" but would stand off the wall by at least 2". A 14" can't be installed at all to replace a 12". Brand is usually right between the seat attachments to the toilet, they all have them. A picture might help.

Hi
I did do some measuring, the drain hole is approx 14" from the wall, there is a curve after all! And the brand name is not on the toilet anywhere, go figure! The 2 bolts on each side, measure 4 1/2" from the back of the toilet and 11 1/2" from the back. If I order a toilet with those measurements I should get what I'm needg right?

ballengerb1 · Oct 5, 2009, 09:40 AM

Measuring from the bolts to the wall will tell you the size of the offset. Those bolts are coming off the falnge below the toilet and are dead center on the drain. When yopu wrote "measure 4 1/2" from the back of the toilet " I assume you mean from the bolts to the wall, right?

tootsierhinohum · Oct 5, 2009, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by ballengerb1

Measuring from the bolts to the wall will tell you the size of the offset. Those bolts are coming off the falnge below the toilet and are dead center on the drain. When yopu wrote "measure 4 1/2" from the back of the toilet " I assume you mean from the bolts to the wall, right?

No, the 4 1/2" measurement is from the back of the stool to the first bolt, then 11 1/2" to the next bolt. The measurement from the wall to the bolt is about 11 1/2". That's where I need to start huh?

Milo Dolezal · Oct 5, 2009, 12:12 PM

Is the toilet attached to the floor with 2 bolts or 4 bolts ?

ballengerb1 · Oct 5, 2009, 12:16 PM

This sounds like a 12" rough in toilet. Forget all measuring except from the bolt to the actual wall, not the baseboard. Betting that will be 12" right on the mark, let us know.

tootsierhinohum · Oct 5, 2009, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Milo Dolezal

Is the toilet attached to the floor with 2 bolts or 4 bolts ?

I'm guessg they are attached with 4, otherwise I don't know why there would be all of them. Usually only 2 are needed, but seeing as it's a basement floor toilet...

massplumber2008 · Oct 5, 2009, 04:18 PM

Hi Tootsier...

All toilets, even the really old toilets use only two bolts to attach to the toilet flange. The other 2 bolts were used to bolt the toilet to the floor. Eventually, they found the additional 2 weren't needed and did away with them.

If you measured 11.5" from the finished wall to the bolts at/near the center of the toilet then the toilet is a 12" rough in toilet as Ballengerb1 pointed out. That is what you need to order... ;)

Let us know if you want to discuss more... O.K.?

MARK

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tootsierhinohum · Oct 6, 2009, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by massplumber2008

Hi Tootsier...

All toilets, even the really old toilets use only two bolts to attach to the toilet flange. The other 2 bolts were used to bolt the toilet to the floor. Eventually, they found the additional 2 weren't needed and did away with them.

If you measured 11.5" from the finished wall to the bolts at/near the center of the toilet then the toilet is a 12" rough in toilet as Ballengerb1 pointed out. That is what you need to order...;)

Let us know if you want to discuss more...O.K.??

MARK

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Thank You!

tootsierhinohum · Oct 6, 2009, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by massplumber2008

Hi Tootsier...

All toilets, even the really old toilets use only two bolts to attach to the toilet flange. The other 2 bolts were used to bolt the toilet to the floor. Eventually, they found the additional 2 weren't needed and did away with them.

If you measured 11.5" from the finished wall to the bolts at/near the center of the toilet then the toilet is a 12" rough in toilet as Ballengerb1 pointed out. That is what you need to order...;)

Let us know if you want to discuss more...O.K.??

MARK

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I forgot, the first bolts aren't the center of the toilet, theres' 2 on each side like I said and it's about 14 inches to where the center of the toilet is and where the drain curves down.

Milo Dolezal · Oct 6, 2009, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by massplumber2008

Hi Tootsier...

All toilets, even the really old toilets use only two bolts to attach to the toilet flange. The other 2 bolts were used to bolt the toilet to the floor. Eventually, they found the additional 2 weren't needed and did away with them.

If you measured 11.5" from the finished wall to the bolts at/near the center of the toilet then the toilet is a 12" rough in toilet as Ballengerb1 pointed out. That is what you need to order...;)

Let us know if you want to discuss more...O.K.??

MARK

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Mark, I was thinking he is measuring from the front bolts ( if present ). That's why asked him to verify. :D

tootsierhinohum · Oct 6, 2009, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Milo Dolezal

Mark, I was thinking he is measuring from the front bolts ( if present ). That's why asked him to verify. :D

Hi
I'm a she, lol, and yes I measured from the back bolts, they're further up the side than usual, they measure 11 1/2" from the wall, odd.

Milo Dolezal · Oct 6, 2009, 01:34 PM

Tootsierhinohum: Oooops, my apology... it was unintentional

tootsierhinohum · Oct 6, 2009, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Milo Dolezal

Tootsierhinohum: Oooops, my appology.... it was unintentional

That's OK!

ballengerb1 · Oct 6, 2009, 05:39 PM

It's a 12' rough in.

tootsierhinohum · Oct 6, 2009, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by ballengerb1

Its a 12' rough in.

Is there one that fits both 12 or 14, just in case?