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    dannac Posts: 267, Reputation: 9
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    #1

    Sep 9, 2009, 06:16 AM
    Water shut off valve (interior.toilet, faucet, etc.)
    Needed to change some tank parts for my toilet...

    Wanted to shut water off from valve... turned knob, and it broke off.
    (luckily no water leak)

    I have what I believe is called a compression valve.
    Old type, probably 4 or 5 turns to shut off water.

    I will replace with newer 1/4 turn valve.

    Went to Lowe's to purchase and noticed a new type...
    Just push into place, no tightening or anything.

    Anyone familiar with these ?
    Do you use these instead of compression type ?

    Any other advice or brand name (the one that broke was approx 14yrs old)

    Thanks
    Danna
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    #2

    Sep 9, 2009, 06:47 AM
    Hey Danna,

    You're looking for a Sharkbite 1/4 turn Angle Stop, (see image) They will replace your old compression type angle stop. Of course you will have to remove the old compression nut and ferule first. Good luck, Tom
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    Sep 9, 2009, 06:52 AM

    Thanks for reply...

    Do you recommend using this type vs compression type ?

    How would one of these shark types be changed in future?
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    Sep 9, 2009, 06:57 AM

    A few things Tom forgot:

    There is a compression ferule removal tool out there. It's necessary to remove the ring.

    Yes, there are Sharkbite fittings. They require a removal tool as well.

    There is another type of stop which you basically push the back to release the tension.

    They all work.
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    Sep 9, 2009, 07:20 AM

    Removing ferrule... will that leave an indention or marking on the copper that could cause a problem with the sharkbite fitting.

    If enough copper is extended, would it be easier to just cut off old valve ?
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    Sep 9, 2009, 07:23 AM

    Good point: the pipe has to be nice and round, with no indentation. Otherwise, you will have to cut it off. Always, clean the cut so you don't have high point and/or sharp edge

    For removing ferrule nut: use proper tool

    Yes, these Push-in type valves are OK to use. Home Depot carries BrassCraft brand.
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    Sep 9, 2009, 07:40 AM
    Thanks for the back up Kiss,
    There is a compression ferule removal tool out there. It's necessary to remove the ring.
    Her's what one looks like. (see image) Good luck, Tom
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    Sep 9, 2009, 07:49 AM

    Hell Dannac,

    Every on gave excellent advice, I will add mine also, see the images for the compression ferule removal tool, the other push type angle valve as KeepItsimpleStupid says this one doesn't not tool for removal just push the black plastic in, and also the removal tool for the Sharkbite. If you decide to use these type make sure you have enough pipe for installation, good luck.

    John
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    Sep 9, 2009, 08:07 AM

    Tom:

    Your welcome. As you get older, you can't remember everything.

    afaroo:

    I think your taking lessons from Speedball and massplumber. Keep up the good work. You summed it up well.
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    Sep 9, 2009, 08:10 AM

    Hi KeepitSimpleStupid,

    I am taking lessons from all of you, Thanks.

    John
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    Sep 9, 2009, 08:49 AM
    I had purchased this from Lowe's
    Not sure how pic will come out .

    My question is... would removing metal clip allow fitting to removed later.

    And to install... just slide as far as it will go onto clean, round copper pipe ?

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    Sep 9, 2009, 08:51 AM

    You can post pics using "Go advanced/manage attachements". You can resize using the program IrfanView - Official Homepage - one of the most popular viewers worldwide

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