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    Aug 24, 2009, 02:38 PM
    Re-do Bathroom
    Hello,
    Mine is old home built in 1947, I need to redo the bathroom and I think back then they did not use drywall. I need to pull down all the walls (leaving the beams exposed), then add insulation, green drywall... etc
    I am thinking to do it myself. What would I need to know to do it the rite way.
    What kind of Material I need? What do I need to use for the flooring? I want to make it waterproof... my kids take long showers.

    Thanks for the help.
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    Aug 24, 2009, 04:43 PM

    What fixtures do you plan to install? Greenboard may be fine for non-wet walls but not above a tub or in a shower. You also need to install a poly vapor barrier before any sheeting. Do you plan to paint or tile the walls or what? For flooring I'd go with 1/4" Hardiebacker screwed and glued and then grouted ceramic tile.
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    Aug 25, 2009, 04:02 AM

    If any of the walls are exterior walls you will need to insulate them. If a shower or tub is on that wall or walls use cement board. I used 15 lb. felt as my vapor barrier and made marks above it where all the studs were located so I wold know where the drill and screw the cement board. Cement board should go up at least 6' from drain opening.

    Quote Originally Posted by pattyg2 View Post
    if any of the walls are exterior walls you will need to insulate them. If a shower or tub is on that wall or walls use cement board. I used 15 lb. Felt as my vapor barrier and made marks above it where all the studs were located so i would know where the drill and screw the cement board. Cement board should go up at least 6' from drain opening.
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    Aug 25, 2009, 06:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ballengerb1 View Post
    What fixtures do you plan to install? Greenboard may be fine for non-wet walls but not above a tub or in a shower. You also need to install a poly vapor barrier before any sheeting. Do you plan to paint or tile the walls or what? For flooring I'd go with 1/4" Hardiebacker screwed and glued and then grouted ceramic tile.
    Thanks for the reply I would try to post some pics by this w/nd... what is the best practice to knock down the walls?
    I shall tile half of the walls and the rest is paint. And what kind of insulation I should be using.
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    Aug 25, 2009, 12:08 PM

    You never told us your fixtures but said the kids shower. You must be tiled higher than half way up. Not sure what you mean about knocking down a wall, removing old drywall maybe? Fill your stud space with un faced fiberglass insulation since you will install a vapor barrier. Like patty said 15 lbs felt is OK but I use visqueen 6 mil.
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    Aug 25, 2009, 02:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ballengerb1 View Post
    You never told us your fixtures but said the kids shower. You must be tiled higher than half way up. Not sure what you mean about knocking down a wall, removing old drywall maybe?? Fill your stud space with un faced fiberglass insulation since you will install a vapor barrier. Like patty said 15 lbs felt is ok but I use visqueen 6 mil.
    I think he wants to tile halfway up the bathroom walls and tile the whole shower area.
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    Aug 25, 2009, 03:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by pattyg2 View Post
    I think he wants to tile halfway up the bathroom walls and tile the whole shower area.
    Patty is rite. Halfway up the bathroom walls and tile the whole shower area. My walls are not drywall, that's what I have been told when I bought my house few years ago.
    I shall be removing the tub,toilet & sink and install stand up shower, toilet & sink.
    I am also planning to install a medicine cabinet, exhaust fan and couple of new electric outlets.

    Thanks to both of you to reply to my questions.
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    Aug 25, 2009, 04:09 PM

    What are your walls if not drywall? Swanstone makes a retro shower designed to fit into a tub space. Might be something to consider Swan Swanstone Veritek Retrofit Single Threshold Shower Base. 32 deep x 60 wide. Model FR 3260LM. White, FR3260L [ Swanstone FR3260L, Swanstone FR3260L, FR3260L, FR3260L, FR 3260 L, FR-3260, FR3260, Bathroom, Bathroom Fixtures, Shower Bases, Shower P
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    Aug 25, 2009, 05:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ballengerb1 View Post
    Bob is right about the retrofit shower floor. I ordered mine through Home Depot for about $155.00 in white. Makes remodeling the bathroom so much easier from tub to stand up shower.
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    Aug 26, 2009, 12:01 PM
    Jacssur,
    When you're ready for the plumbing give us a heads up over at The Plumbing Page and let us help. Good luck, Tom
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    Dec 29, 2009, 11:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    Jacssur,
    When you're ready for the plumbing give us a heads up over at The Plumbing Page and let us help. Good luck, Tom
    Hello All,
    I have started to re-do my bathroom. I have gutted everything and now I have the floors and wall exposed.
    I shall post some pictures soon.
    I shall be installing a standup shower, new toilet and new wall mount sink.
    I have removed existing plumbing and changing it from cast-iron to PVC.
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    Dec 29, 2009, 03:29 PM

    Use 1/2" hardi backerboard on the walls where the shower will be. I did this after installing the shower pan.Name:  insulation.jpg
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    Dec 29, 2009, 06:24 PM

    Hey Jacssur,
    As promised, I moved your posts over to the Plumbing Page where we have the best plumbers on the web.
    We're here to help. Ask away! Cheers, Tom
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    Jan 5, 2010, 09:53 AM


    Hello All,
    I was able to do some work over the weekend.
    Here are some pictures...
    I shall be installing a standing enclosed shower
    Putting plywood on the floor to have it all level, then install the hardibacker boards on the floor and walls (4ft high ).
    For Plumbing I used Sharkbite elbows and compression value.
    Let me know your expert comments...

    Regards,
    Jacs
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    Jan 5, 2010, 01:58 PM

    Don't forget to insulate those walls. I insulated all the walls even though just the exterior was necessary. I did it more for soundproofing when taking a shower. Use to be able to hear the person taking a shower in the kitchen. Not anymore!
    Also the hardi backer board needs to go up at least 6' from the drain in a shower.
    Are you going to extend your water pipes for the shower valve and shower head?

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