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    Aug 4, 2009, 06:02 PM
    Toilet flange too far forward.I think
    OK, I’m no plumber and I’ve never installed a toilet before. My roughing for the toilet is 16” from the back wall. That measurement is from the wall to the center of the flange. From what I understand standard roughings are 12-14”…I have a tiny space. I want to maximize the bathroom space by having the toilet set as far back as possible. Is there a fitting to move the flange/toilet back? My toilet flange is set in place (cement) :/
    Dan
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    Aug 5, 2009, 10:58 PM

    Are you on Slab or Raised Foundation ?

    Standard Rough-In is 12".
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    Aug 6, 2009, 04:22 AM
    There are several ways around this problem.
    1) take the floor up and move the flange back 4".
    2)purchase a 14" toilet (Toilet 14 Inch Rough In - Bathroom Fixtures - Compare Prices, Reviews and Buy at NexTag - Price - Review) and replace your flange with a 2" offset toilet flange(see image)
    3) Leave everything as it is and fur the wall out and make the space into a cabinet. Behind the toilet tank.
    Good luck, Tom
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    Aug 6, 2009, 06:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    There are several ways around this problem.
    1) take the floor up and move the flange back 4".
    2)purchase a 14" toilet (Toilet 14 Inch Rough In - Bathroom Fixtures - Compare Prices, Reviews and Buy at NexTag - Price - Review) and replace your flange with a 2" offset toilet flange(see image)
    3) Leave everything as it is and fur the wall out and make the space into a cabinet. behind the toilet tank.
    Good luck, Tom
    Thanks Tom, You are bang-on and that's my plan for this morning. I found an offset-flange and will cut my 1” 5/8 floor pavers and slab. I currently have a 4” ABS waste line that my flange sits in perfectly (3”-4” flange.) The 14” toilet doesn’t bring the toilet back in overall length, in the room, so I purchased a 12” and will bring the flange back 2" and build a shelf/wall behind the toilet tank.
    Dan
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    Aug 6, 2009, 07:05 AM

    You can also buy TOTO toilet with adjustable mounting ring. They sell them from 9" to 15" rough-in. No cutting, no concrete breaking, no dust, no blisters on your fingers... just set it and you are done. Good luck. Milo
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    Aug 6, 2009, 07:36 AM
    Thanks Tom, You are bang-on and that's my plan for this morning. I found an offset-flange and will cut my 1” 5/8 floor pavers and slab. I currently have a 4” ABS waste line that my flange sits in perfectly (3”-4” flange.) The 14” toilet doesn't bring the toilet back in overall length, in the room, so I purchased a 12” and will bring the flange back 2" and build a shelf/wall behind the toilet tank.
    Dan
    Hi Dan,
    Great! Send me a picture when you're all done. Good luck, Tom
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    Aug 6, 2009, 07:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    Hi Dan,
    Great! Send me a picture when you're all done. Good luck, Tom
    Tom, I did it!! Thanks. I attached done, almost done, and opps...

    Dan
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    Aug 6, 2009, 07:49 PM

    Make sure you do not leave wooden shims under the toilet. If you must shim go with plastic, wood rots
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    Aug 6, 2009, 08:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ballengerb1 View Post
    Make sure you do not leave wooden shims under the toilet. If you must shim go with plastic, wood rots
    I thought of that... can I leave them there and replace them?? I'm not sure if I can lift the toilet off the wax ring... I don't know. Also, the bolt caps don't work; I think I should have placed the plastic seating pieces under the nuts?? Can I remove the nuts and wood shims and replace them without disturbing the seal?

    :/

    Thanks
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    Aug 6, 2009, 08:20 PM

    Well, a wax ring only cost about a dollar.
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    Aug 10, 2009, 05:34 PM

    Plastic washer, then brass washer and finally the nut. Cut the excess brass bolt and drop on the bonet to hide the bolt. Slide the plastci shim in just snug, remove the wood shim and sit on the toilet. Slightly rock the toilet while sitting on it or push down with a hand on each side of the rim.
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    Aug 10, 2009, 06:13 PM
    Cool, thanks
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    Aug 10, 2009, 06:13 PM
    Cool, thanks

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