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ogucci · Sep 17, 2006, 08:18 AM

I have a piece of artwork which is also from the Paris Etching Society, It appears to be a beautiful watercolor labeled as"Vielles maisons en Picardie
France.. It is #6 and the artist name seems to begin with the letter l and the last name with R. such as luen.. Remsau... or the R may be a B.

The picture is of a river scene with two boats, bridge, houses, and a few trees. Very striking..

Can anyone help me with the potential value ? Is there another web site that may help me further?

Thanks,

Ogucci

RickJ · Sep 18, 2006, 08:22 AM

Works by members of the Paris Etching Society are practically valueless.

The Society is extinct - and there is just no market for the prints. This is one of the most common questions on the Art board and even other art boards on the net - and the answer (usually in the form of no answer at all) always points to the works as being without value.

zenpainter · Oct 22, 2006, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by RickJ

Works by members of the Paris Etching Society are practically valueless.

The Society is extinct - and there is just no market for the prints. This is one of the most common questions on the Art board and even other art boards on the net - and the answer (usually in the form of no answer at all) always points to the works as being without value.

Sounds like a grim outlook. The logo looks Republican.. The two are related, I'm sure.

RickJ · Oct 23, 2006, 03:48 AM

Someone show me that a print of Vielles maisons en Picardie has sold for more than a 20 spot and I'll eat my hat ;)

Sorry to disappoint you, ogucci, but if you continue researching that item, you'll see that it's true.

zenpainter · Oct 23, 2006, 05:53 AM

Mademoiselle or Monsieur,

You musn't listen to the zealous flag-wrapped elephant below, whose commentary on works imported from France are ill-informed and poorly researched, if at all.
I can tell you this: My grandmother toured Europe several times (a privilege at the time)
and purchased a few works in Paris and New York. I have a somewhat similar Aquatint
Etching such as yours. I've consulted a specialist, my former Professor of Art of the
Barbizon Period in France. He saw my work, and told me that it needs commercial appraisal, but that it has strong monetary value (if that is what you are seeking).
Is the signature, or initials in Pencil? Is the Title in pencil as well? Is there a stamp
of Authenticity on the left bottom of the work w/ letters SZL ? If so, this is a First
Edition, genuine work from a Parisian Artist. The Paris Etching Society commissioned
works only from those with notoreity and extraordinary vision.
I'd be happy to help you further, but I'd have to know more specs.
Again, the Elephante who bears grim news to every single post on this subject.
Heed nothing he says. All one needs to do, is to see the other groups he started.
I wish you the best, and will be happy to help you. Maybe a digital photo would help!

Regards.

RickJ · Oct 23, 2006, 11:41 AM

... if you choose not to believe me because of my picture, then here you go: You can get information straight from the horses mouth:

SZL is Sydney Zoltan Lucas. His grandson Michael Lucas still runs the family business that used to be called Paris Etching Society. I have spoken to him personally in the recent past.

But since I have an elephant as my picture, you should not believe me. Call him yourself:
http://www.citimaps.com/midtown/phyllislucas.html

It does not benefit me to say anything good OR bad about PES. I'm just passing along what I have learned.

Heck, if you prove me wrong and get $21 for that work I'd be thrilled for you.

zenpainter · Dec 23, 2006, 12:43 PM

Hey, people!
First, came by to say hello to all... Sorry that one of you seems bitter... I mean,
The fact that I have a Master of Arts degree (which obviously you no nothing of)
Doesn't qualify me to well-research the provenance and appraisal of any Barbizon
Work from France. My degree is in Piano Pedagogy / Music Education ~ quite a bit
Apart from art history, don't you think?. or don't you think.
Anyway, I did find the most mysterious thing! A gentleman is selling in "live" auction
3 works (out of 12) from Jules. They are lovely! It's great to have one of those.
I think he doesn't quite know what he has, but I look to find out further.
My professor led me to the Curator of the Tweed Museum of Art in Minnesota.
He's considering an offer for mine in the high 5 figures hey! High-Five! All right!

So, if the more polite persons that frequent this site would like to know further,
I believe I may be able to help. I just don't wish to devulge information on an
Open site whereupon ignorance lingers. Happy Holidays and the New Year 2007!

zenpainter*:)

Curlyben · Dec 23, 2006, 01:42 PM

Zen, your research is definitely flawed as works from PES will NEVER be worth 5 figures, certainly not Dollars or Pounds, possibly Yen.

As PES was NOT produced in France but NY you are serious misleading everyone, either that or you are deluded.

Now rather than trying to "Boiler room" these works over the net would you please give an honest opinion, if is possible!

zenpainter · Dec 23, 2006, 01:47 PM

Yes, this answer was helpful. It makes it much more clear when scrolling down just what needs to be past by.

zenpainter · Dec 23, 2006, 01:57 PM

It's curious how some will just prey on negativity. While you have a hard time spelling correctly (definitely), I don't fault you for that, because spelling is not an accurate indicator
Of intelligence. You pose yourself as a "know-it-all", when my professor would shame you
Red in the face. Obviously, you haven't read Barack Obama's book "The Audacity of Hope".
(or may not grasp it).. But, you fly in the face of it and embarrass yourself much like
The animated antics that you choose to represent yourself.
You, and the now-deflagged elephante (talk about embarrassed, I sure would be on that side
Of the isle), you are both ridiculous... which comes from "ridicule".
I made an effort to reach a few people who have works that are sought after by a curator
Of a fine arts gallery, willing to pay well. They collect obscure unknown artists for a good price. You don't know that, because you have not been in that corner of the world.me
Try and twarte my efforts, it is all for naught.

Curlyben · Dec 23, 2006, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by zenpainter

Anyway, I did find the most mysterious thing! A gentleman is selling in "live" auction
3 works (out of 12) from Jules. They are lovely! It's great to have one of those.

Nice words but how about a link to the "auction" ?

Come on you talk the talk now you need evidence to back it up!

OK so my spelling sucks, hey I'm a techie, you can't spell numbers or code wrong ;)