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    Feb 17, 2009, 05:17 PM
    Toilet rough ins
    Hi guys,
    I am in sales and I had a customer ask if he needed a 12 or a ten in rough if he was 11" from the wall. I think he needs 12 my co workers aren't sure what do you guys think? And how do I determine the differences? :confused:
    Thanks ami
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    Feb 17, 2009, 05:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by amicook View Post
    hi guys,
    I am in sales and I had a customer ask if he needed a 12 or a ten in rough if he was 11" from the wall. I think he needs 12 my co workers aren't sure what do you guys think? And how do I determine the differences? :confused:
    Thanks ami
    Hey Ami,
    I'm with you. 11 inches might be a tad tight but you have a little "wiggle room" on the flange bolts.
    how do I determine the differences?
    A 10 inch bowl is special order and will cost more. Cheers, Tom
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    Feb 17, 2009, 05:59 PM

    It really depends on the toilet he is going to install. If the toilet tank has three bolts that secure the tank to bowl, then he should be fine with a 12 rough toilet. If he has a toilet with only two bolt anchor for tank to bowl, it gets iffy. Will depend on the tank lid. In my experience, a twelve inch toilet will work with a 11 inch rough in, but the lid may not sit correctly on the tank, or you may have to forch the lid on(cuasing prossible breakage of china). It hard to say without being there to see actuall toilet and rough in.

    Now, foolproof way to go would be getting a ten inch rough toilet. Yes its more expensive, but it will fit. Only problem is now you have an inch between tank and wall. But if you use the play in closet flange and anchore tank correctly , it will look just fine and work just fine.

    To sum up. Twelve might work, ten will work. All depends. Just let them know that if they go with a ten, they may have a gap between tank and wall, but if they go with twelve, it will be very tight, and may not fit correctly.
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    Feb 17, 2009, 08:31 PM

    I agree with previous responses. However, we always rough in 12" from rough framing. Final result is that toilet tank sits nice and close to the wall. If I am making the decision in this matter - that I would not lose any sleep over it: 11" is OK with me.
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    Feb 18, 2009, 08:57 AM
    Let's put this to bed guys! We rough in 12" from the rough fraiming. With dry wall subtract 5/8ths which will leave 11 3/8 ths. Figure 1/4" for the base board and that will leave you 11 1/8" from the finished wall. We have never had a problem using a 12 inch bowl. A 10 inch bowl would leave you with a gap between tank and wall.
    Good luck, Tom
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    Feb 18, 2009, 10:16 AM

    I agree, go with a standard 12". It always dicey when someone gives you a measurement and you're not 100% sure how well and where they measured.
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    Feb 18, 2009, 10:29 AM

    Or... you can do this: take 4' level to the store, put it in vertical position behind the toilet tank and measure the distance between the bottom of the level and holes for toilet bolts. That will tell you exactly if the toilet model you want to use will fit.

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