[wildaligator]

Dear all,

I was replacing my bathroom faucet and the faucet I got from home depot came with a pop up drain system so I thought I would change the drain too, HOWEVER since my house is pretty old I ran into some problems, I was trying to open the U looking part of the drainage and the entire thing broke off because the metals pipe is rusted.

So right now the drainage pipe coming out of the wall has a BIG crack through it and it goes into the wall so I don't know what to do? I would assume that this part can be screwed off so I can replace it but it doesn't seem to turn at all I tried with a pipe ranch and it does not rotate at all.
What do I DO?

Help me please

Thanks

[massplumber2008]

Hi Wildalligator...

If there is not a NUT at the wall then I am afraid that this drain may be attached to copper pipe which means that the drain pipe itself has been sweated or soldered to the pipe which means that you will need to solder the old one off...

OR, you may be able to cut off the old trap about an 1.5" off the wall and then attach a 1.5" copper x 1.5" plastic SHIELDED CLAMP (see picture) onto the old pipe and pipe this up in ABS or PVC plastic... new trap, desanco fitting and all.

Let me know if there is a nut at the wall under the flange... otherwise to confirm all see if you can post a pic. Or two of the pipe.trap.

Let me know more...

MARK

[wildaligator]

Ok do you have msn or skype or something I can talk to you on? I can take a picture it is very dark and its in the wall but I will try right now, thank you so much :)

[wildaligator]

I am going to look now to see if I can see a nut its in the wall so its kind of hard I have broken off a bit of the plaster to get in there, I will post a picture now, I really appreciate your help and I see that you are online I just don't know how to contact you :S I am new to this thing so...

[wildaligator]

Here are the pictures I am not sure how great they are... like I said it's hard to get a good shot

[wildaligator]

Some more pix of the situation at hand... it's a double sink in the bathroom I changed the other one this one while trying to unscrew broke off and now the pipe coming out of the wall is cracked, I hope I can unscrew it and put in a new one or something simple that doesn't require high tech tools...

[massplumber2008]

To see what I write. Just refresh the screen every few minutes while we chat... ;)

That is copper pipe for sure... so the trap was soldered onto this pipe and cannot be removed unless you have a torch, solder, flux, sandcloth, etc...

If you open the hole larger... can you see threads at the end of the copper or is there just copper and copper fitting..

I'm thinking the shielded clamp is the way to go here... ;)

Is this for a vanity with a base cabinet or for a pedestal sink? Let me know.

[wildaligator]

Yeah it's inside a cabinet with another sink. So two sinks in one cabinet and the room is VERY tight under there not much room to maneuver any tool...

When I feel inside the wall I can see that this one goes into another one but like you said it's probably soldered maaan... I should have never touched it I just wanted to change the faucet... :( but then again it would have broken sooner than later it's all rusted. Ok so I can follow the crack n where it is no longer cracked I SAW? And then put that clamp on top and continue with ABS?

I am going to homedepot tomorrow pick up some abs I guess and what kind of saw would I need?

Thank You So much :), I will be refreshing the page :)

[massplumber2008]

Buy the 1.5" copper x 1.5" plastic shielded clamp (called a PROFLEX or MISSION clamp.. see pic. Again)... Worst case, may need to go to a PLUMBING SUPPLY HOUSE for this...do not purchase any other kinds... especially the all rubber type with 2 SS bands (see picture..do NOT get this).. these will not work well here.

Then buy some 1.5" ABS pipe, cement and primer, and an 1.5" PTrap and an 1.5" x 1.25" ABS desanco fitting. See pictures below... although not ABS, these are same fitting types as ABS.

Notice the 1.5" x 1.25" desanco fitting... this reduces from the 1.5" ABS pipe to the 1.25" tubular metal pop-up assembly.

Use a hacksaw to cut the copper... let the blade do the cutting. In other words, don't muscle it. The hacksaw will also work well on the ABS or buy a pvc saw (last pic.)... ;)

Let me know if have questions...

MARK

[wildaligator]

Thanks a lot mark I am going to get a hacksaw and the supplies tomorrow and I will let you know how it goes :)
Thanks once again