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Jan 15, 2009, 01:10 PM
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Dachshund breeding
My 3 year old dachshund miniture short haired tied this weekend with my 14 month miniture short dog not related what should I exspect to in the next few weeks i.e.
Moods,signs,health,recommended foods etc please no lectures this was planned with all puppy(s) going to family
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Jan 15, 2009, 01:20 PM
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 Originally Posted by russianeddie
my 3 year old dachshund miniture short haired tied this weekend with my 14 month miniture short dog not related what should i exspect to in the next few weeks ie
moods,signs,health,reccomended foods etc please no lectures this was planed with all puppy(s) going to family
Okay, no lecture. Just a comment. What is going to happen to the mixed puppy's puppies? That's the old "I bred my GSD with a rott and everyone wants the puppies" argument. Unfortunately, NOBODY wants the second generation which is even more mixed because unless a dog gets really lucky, nobody cares.
Take it away experts!
As far as what you should expect? Google "dog pregnancy" and you'll have all your answers.
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Jan 15, 2009, 01:24 PM
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If it was planned then you should know what to expect because you already did your research before deciding to breed your dog. That's what a good pet owner/breeder does, the research, then they allow their dog to breed, not the other way around.
I'm sure that you did have your dog and the male genetically tested to make sure that they are good breeding stock. I'm sure you also made sure that your female is healthy and so is the male. Of course you researched what could happen during pregnancy and the risks involved. So, after all of that why didn't you research what would be required during pregnancy? It's time to call a breeder or your vet and get that information.
If you didn't do any of the above then I hate to tell you this, but you've put the life of your dog and her puppies in jeopardy. This is known as backyard breeding, and it's an epidemic. We get a lot of people coming to this site asking for help after their dog got pregnant, well, it's too late now. If you want my advice, I would never breed a dog unless you are an experienced breeder, having homes for the puppies isn't what you need to consider, the health and welfare of your dog is the most important thing.
Now that you've gone this far you'll have to go further and get professional help in order to get the best possible outcome. Talk to your vet or a breeder, that's your best bet.
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Jan 15, 2009, 01:34 PM
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I won't lecture, but I just want to say one thing. You do realize that the pet population is already out of control, right?
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Jan 15, 2009, 01:36 PM
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 Originally Posted by Altenweg
If it was planned then you should know what to expect because you already did your research before deciding to breed your dog. That's what a good pet owner/breeder does, the research, then they allow their dog to breed, not the other way around.
I'm beginning to really LOVE the posts that start, "Don't answer this unless ...," "Don't lecture me but ..." and "I need this right away."
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Gone, But Not Forgotten
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Jan 15, 2009, 11:24 PM
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 Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
I'm beginning to really LOVE the posts that start out, "Don't answer this unless ...," "Don't lecture me but ..." and "I need this right away."
I just can't believe that there are still so many people out there that don't know that millions upon millions of dogs have to die everyday because someone wants to breed more of them for "family members." They don't realise that it really doesn't end there! People think we are just trying to judge them, or be mean! Well if I need to be honest, sometimes I do! It's reckless, cruel, and abusive, to keep on breeding dogs with little or no knowledge, when other dogs have to die because they thought their dog was "sooo cute!!" Inexperienced backyard breeders should be subject to punishment under law, for overpopulation and cruelty to animals. All breeders should be reqired to have a license to breed, and have the knowledge, means, and conditions in order to be a breeder, in order to preserve the bloodlines only.
Russianeddie, please click on this link. It may explain a little of what you may not realise.
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/p...rs-285842.html
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Jan 16, 2009, 05:50 AM
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 Originally Posted by starbuck8
I just can't believe that there are still so many people out there that don't know that millions upon millions of dogs have to die everyday because someone wants to breed more of them for "family members." They don't realise that it really doesn't end there! People think we are just trying to judge them, or be mean!! Well if I need to be honest, sometimes I do! It's reckless, cruel, and abusive, to keep on breeding dogs with little or no knowledge, when other dogs have to die because they thought their dog was "sooo cute!!" Inexperienced backyard breeders should be subject to punishment under law, for overpopulation and cruelty to animals. All breeders should be reqired to have a license to breed, and have the knowledge, means, and conditions in order to be a breeder, in order to preserve the bloodlines only.
Russianeddie, please click on this link. It may explain a little of what you may not realise.
https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/dogs/p...rs-285842.html
I'm beginning to think maybe it's the lucky ones that simply die - it's the other ones, dumped, starved, tortured, that keep me awake at night.
And I love the "I have people who are going to take the puppies" line. Of course, irresponsible people have irresponsible friends so those puppies (which are so cute and, after all, are the puppies of a friend's dog) have more puppies which aren't puppies of a friend's dog and so it goes - and so it goes.
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Jan 16, 2009, 09:11 AM
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It's a never ending cycle and only the dogs suffer, the "breeders" (and I use the term loosely) make money and everyone, but the dogs, are happy.
I really think that every person who wants to breed their dog should spend a week at a shelter, should have to hold a dog while it's put to sleep because there aren't enough homes, enough people out there to adopt a dog in need.
Many of the dogs in shelters are puppies or 1 and 2 year old dogs, they were bought by people who passed the pet store window and couldn't resist that cute little puppy. Once they brought it home it peed everywhere, chewed up everything, wouldn't stop crying, and all of a sudden it's not a cute puppy anymore but a destructive dog. Oh well, just bring it to the shelter and walk away. In the meantime, instead of getting their dog spayed or neutered, some irresponsible pet owner decides that their dog is so darn cute that they just have to have one litter, after all, each dog should have a litter. The only thing that these people are doing is keeping the shelters full to the point of overflowing. Every time a litter of pups is born, shelter dogs are killed because there simply isn't room.
It's irresponsible, cruel, inhumane and downright foolish. I can't be nice to these people anymore, why should I, they're not being nice to their dog. :(
Okay, clunk, I'm off my soap box.
But, before I jump off, here's a few pictures. These are all dogs that are in the shelter in my town, take a close look, most of them will be put to sleep.
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2 month old Siberian husky/golden retriever
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4 month old shepard mix
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1 year old lab mix
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4 year old lab
Right now there are 32 dogs in the Edmonton humane society, that's in the shelter itself, many more dogs are in foster homes waiting to find their forever home.
So, breed, but look into the eyes of the pictures I've posted, because one of them will suffer because your dog had a litter.
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Jan 16, 2009, 09:19 AM
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Amen! (Love the first puppy,)
Wait until the fun of Christmas gift puppies wears off.
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Jan 16, 2009, 09:24 AM
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I like all of them Judy, that's why I don't go to the shelter just to visit, and why I don't volunteer there, I already have 3 dogs, in order to take another I'd have to move!
If you've ever been to a shelter, well, it's the most depressing place on earth. I always go into the dog area, I can't help myself. I go because I realize that most of them have little human contact. A pat on the head, a "good dog" that's all I can do right now. There are those that run up to great you, there are those that have given up and don't even look up when you walk by. You can usually guess which ones will be put to sleep soon.
Each of those dogs is a good dog, they just had the misfortune of finding a bad owner. I really think everyone should be forced to spend time in a shelter, the world would be a better place!
And again, clunk, off my soap box. Who am I kidding? ;)
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Jan 16, 2009, 11:53 AM
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 Originally Posted by Altenweg
I like all of them Judy, that's why I don't go to the shelter just to visit, and why I don't volunteer there, I already have 3 dogs, in order to take another I'd have to move!
If you've ever been to a shelter, well, it's the most depressing place on earth. I always go into the dog area, I can't help myself. I go because I realize that most of them have little human contact. A pat on the head, a "good dog" that's all I can do right now. There are those that run up to great you, there are those that have given up and don't even look up when you walk by. You can usually guess which ones will be put to sleep soon.
Each of those dogs is a good dog, they just had the misfortune of finding a bad owner. I really think everyone should be forced to spend time in a shelter, the world would be a better place!
And again, clunk, off my soap box. Who am I kidding? ;)
I would love to volunteer at a shelter but I would probably come home crying every time one of the little guys gets put to sleep.
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Jan 16, 2009, 12:11 PM
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That's why I don't do it Zoe, it's way too hard, and I'd end up bringing them all home, I'm already over the allowed limit. Shhh, don't tell anyone. ;)
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Jan 16, 2009, 02:09 PM
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 Originally Posted by ZoeMarie
I would love to volunteer at a shelter but I would probably come home crying every time one of the little guys gets put to sleep.
I volunteered for years for a local rescue. That was heart breaking because the person who really KNEW dogs would go to the shelters and point out the ones she thought we could re-home... and then leave the rest.
I work a lot of dog bite cases, have to go to the City Shelter to pick up the dog bite reports and oftentimes the local SPCA is there, picking who will live and who will die.
My smaller dog (compared to my 130# dog) was scheduled to be euthanized the following morning and we pulled strings - a lot of strings - to move her off death row because they were closing and wouldn't or couldn't complete the paperwork that night and they don't put dogs in those circumstances on "hold."
Of course, once my husband (who was a very big, soft spoken, authoritative kind of guy) announced that he would be spending the night in their waiting room they relaxed their "inflexible" policy.
The whole business is incredibly sad.
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Jan 16, 2009, 02:14 PM
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You guys have done some really good work on this thread. I commend you all, really.
But it is one of the most depressing, heartbreaking, things I've read in I don't know how long.
I don't know whether to cry or hit something. I need to find a backyard breeder around here that I can go punch out.
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Jan 16, 2009, 02:16 PM
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 Originally Posted by Akoue
You guys have done some really good work on this thread. I commend you all, really.
But it is one of the most depressing, heartbreaking, things I've read in I don't know how long.
I don't know whether to cry or hit something. I need to find a backyard breeder around here that I can go punch out.
Call me. I'll go with you.
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Jan 16, 2009, 02:20 PM
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 Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
Call me. I'll go with you.
I'm in NY too right now. If you know of anyone, I'll drive and we'll explain things to him/her... You know, with a bat.
(Okay, I stole that from Woody Allen.)
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Jan 16, 2009, 02:21 PM
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It is sad Judy, and these poor dogs are the only ones that suffer. If anyone can walk into a shelter, go to the dog area and leave without shedding a tear, well, I don't want to meet that person, ever!
Our Jasper was still a puppy when we got him, already 4 months old and already so abused that he wouldn't even come to a human being, not even for a pet or a cuddle. They had to put a leash on him in order for us to get to know him, even then he couldn't be persuaded to come close, he stayed as far away as the leash allowed. Hubby was worried about bringing him home, after all, we had a 3 year old child, a 6 year old dog and a baby on the way, what if we couldn't get him to trust us, what if he became mean? He's a collie cross, not a small dog, if he wanted to he could tear us apart.
Thankfully our love and patience worked, he's such a sweetheart, a kind gentle dog, just like our Indy. I know that his sisters where euthanized, no one wanted to take a chance on them, and we weren't allowed to adopt another because 2 is the limit they'll allow (we already had Indy, so it was a no go).
A lot of people left with cute little happy go lucky pups that day, we left with a scared, troubled, abused little boy, and I wouldn't change a thing. I love that little stinker so very much.
If only people would stop their backyard breeding, if only people would stop buying puppies from these people and pet stores. Imagine it? We might actually have empty shelters! Oh, that's a dream I really wish could become a reality.
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Jan 16, 2009, 02:24 PM
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Count me in, I have a bat and a temper! :)
LMAO! I plan to use this line in future. (No, I won't be giving you credit. It's too good not to claim as my own.)
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Pets Expert
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Jan 16, 2009, 02:27 PM
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Judy, had to spread the rep, but can I catch a ride with you? Do you mind coming to Canada? We have puppy mills here too, maybe we can make a few stops here and then meet with Akoue. What do you think?
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Pets Expert
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Jan 16, 2009, 02:27 PM
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 Originally Posted by Akoue
LMAO! I plan to use this line in future. (No, I won't be giving you credit. It's too good not to claim as my own.)
Ha, I'll just post the link in my sig, then they'll all know it's mine. :D
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