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    Dec 9, 2008, 07:57 AM
    Gov. Rod Blagojevich was taken into federal custody
    Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was taken into custody earlier this morning .

    Not sure what this is about ;but best guess is that it has something to do with the ongoing and expanding Tony Rezko investigation. Supposedly there may be something criminally wrong with how Blagojevich is conducting the search for a replacement to fill the Senate Seat President -elect Obama is vacating .

    Federal authorities got approval from a judge before the November general election to secretly record the governor, sources told the Tribune, and among their concerns was whether the selection process might be tainted. That possibility has become a focus in an intensifying investigation that has included recordings of the governor and the cooperation of one of his closest friends.
    Rod Blagojevich, Illinois governor -- chicagotribune.com

    Tony Rezko is doing his best attempt to reduce his charges by cooperating with authorities The Guv is going down . The question is : Will he take President-elect Obama with him ?

    Edits :

    He supposedly is taped saying that (the Senate Seat)' is 'A fu**ing valuable thing, you just don't give it away for nothing'

    The Chicago Trib. Has a timeline of the ongoing investigation of the Guv.
    INVESTIGATION TIMELINE -- chicagotribune.com
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    Dec 9, 2008, 10:07 AM

    This new development is going to prove rather dramatic if the Governor decides to "sing" like a canary to save his posterior.
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    Dec 9, 2008, 10:15 AM
    Sounds like a hell of a guy. Drives a hard bargain, too:

    “Later on November 3, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH spoke with Advisor A. By this time, media reports indicated that Senate Candidate 1, an advisor to the Presidentelect, was interested in the Senate seat if it became vacant, and was likely to be supported by the President-elect. During the call, ROD BLAGOJEVICH stated, “unless I get something real good for [Senate Candidate 1], sh*t, I’ll just send myself, you know what I’m saying.” ROD BLAGOJEVICH later stated, “I’m going to keep this Senate option for me a real possibility, you know, and therefore I can drive a hard bargain. You hear what I’m saying. And if I don’t get what I want and I’m not satisfied with it, then I’ll just take the Senate seat myself.”
    He allegedly also spoke of bargaining with Obama for something sweet:

    various federal governmental positions that ROD BLAGOJEVICH would trade the Senate seat for, ROD BLAGOJEVICH asked about “the private sector” and whether the President-elect could “put something together there. . . .Something big.”
    Obama and Biden are in Chicago to meet with The Goracle today. I wonder if he had any talks planned with the good governor while he was in town.

    And by the way, "Cold Cash" Jefferson got booted by the voters over the weekend, too. Yep, got to bury that "Republican culture of corruption." :D
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    Dec 9, 2008, 10:58 AM

    I have mixed feelings about Joseph Cao .It's good that cold cash Jefferson was booted ,and Cao is a pro-lifer.. But he doesn't appear to have any other strong positions except that he is an open border advocate.

    I wonder how long it will be for Obama to throw Blagojevich under the bus. This could be like the Clintoons where there is carnage all around them (like former Arkansas Guv. Jim Guy Tucker and the McDougals) but it never quites reaches them .
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    Dec 9, 2008, 12:00 PM
    But once again a Republican makes diversity history, Cao is the first Vietnamese-American elected to Congress.

    Have you noticed when a Democrat gets busted it's always time to play "Guess that party" in the media coverage?
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    Dec 9, 2008, 12:07 PM

    Yes if he was Republican it would've read :
    Illinois Republican Governor Rod Blagojevich or Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (R)

    Republicans are doing well in the diversity dept in Louisianna .

    As I read it ;Cao is a recent convert to the Republican ranks ;only registering when he decided to run. I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now but my enthusiasm is tempered by other Republicans like " Arnold " and Mike Bloomberg who govern like Dems.
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    Dec 9, 2008, 12:59 PM

    Illinois Governor Suspends Business With Bank Of America
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    Dec 9, 2008, 05:37 PM
    Deleted reply .

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    Magprob I like the comments you added to the link on the thread on the Politics Board.
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    Dec 9, 2008, 05:45 PM
    There was also talk today of Gov. B threatening The Tribune Company. Apparently, there was some kind of offer to help them with their financial problems (they filed for bankruptcy yesterday) if they fired editors and columnists who had criticized them. Don't know all the details - anyone? But he sounds like a piece of work! The amazing thing is that we are still surprised by the level of corruption in government.
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    Dec 9, 2008, 06:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jjwoodhull View Post
    The amazing thing is that we are still surprised by the level of corruption in government.
    Now that's a stretch!:rolleyes:
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    Dec 10, 2008, 05:06 AM
    Obama's Chickens... coming home to roost.
    Washington Times - Complaint hits Rezko land deal
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    Dec 10, 2008, 12:00 PM

    Alexrod "misspoke" about Bammy having spoken to the Gov about his vacant seat. Sure, he misspoke. What a misnomer. Almost like Clinton not having sex... This is really going to heat up very quickly and hopefully have some blowback on Bammy.
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    Dec 10, 2008, 12:03 PM
    It took about 24 hours for Obama to throw him under the bus. Longer than it took him to throw Axelrod under the bus... or at least say he "misspoke" when Obama contradicted Axelrod who said last month, "I know he's talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them." As seems to be a habit, Obama's story is developing.
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    Dec 10, 2008, 12:17 PM

    Yup, change is coming... Chicago style politics??


    Rod tried to have unfavorable Chicago Tribune editorialists fired.

    Can you imagine if W tried to get unfavorable newspaper editors fired? [ that would be a heck of a lot of editors :) ]





    g&p
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    Dec 10, 2008, 04:40 PM
    Harry Reid wants Blogo to resign . Not because of any wrong doing per se . But he is aware that there is a chance albeit unlikely that the Dems could lose the seat. So he wants Blogo to step down so Lt. Gov Pat Quinn can make the choice emphasizes that such a route "would be the most expeditious way for a new Senator to be chosen and seated"

    Why is time of the essence? With the Minnesota Senate seat either lost or in flux, without the Illinois seat, Democrats would be at 57 seats in the Senate. That's still a lopsided majority, but the vacancy would make it more difficult to thwart Republican filibusters on legislation that Democrats want to ram through during Obama's first 100 days in office.

    Sen D*cky Turbin bucked that trend yesterday by calling for a special election .
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    Dec 11, 2008, 07:36 AM
    This is just the logical extension of machine politics and patronage. What is the difference between this and Joe Kennedy buying JFK his first Congressional seat ?



    1960 JFK wanted his Senate seat to go to the swimmer(Teddy Kennedy) . But Teddy was too young for the position. So he arranged with the Guv of Mass. To fill the seat with his good buddy Ben Smith, a Harvard roommate and the mayor of Gloucester, Mass.
    Now JFK and the Guv Foster Furcolo were political rivals .Furcolo wasn't entusiastic in doing JFK's bidding .But Kennedy sat the Guv down and negotiated... an "extremely frank give-and-take" according to Teddy Kennedy biographer Burton Hersh.

    Earlier it was revealed that Joe Biden's vacant seat will be filled by his Senate Chief of Staff Ted Kaufman. Not accusing anything here ;but one does have to wonder what quid pro quo went into that deal .I am pretty sure Biden wants his son Beau Biden to inherit the seat as soon as it becomes available after he returns from his tour in Iraq .

    The thing is ; we know OB1 has met with Guv Blogo... we have the pictures to prove it. If Obama doesn't come clean this will dog him throughout his Presidency ;just like Whitewater did to the Clintoons
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    Dec 11, 2008, 12:03 PM
    We do know that apparently Rezko is singing and I'm sure that has a number of politicians sweating. I'm anxious to see how this plays out.

    Dirty Harry Reid wants Blago to step aside immediately before the Illinois legislature has a chance to call a special election and have Quinn make the appointment. All with the best intentions mind you, because that "would be the most expeditious way for a new Senator to be chosen and seated in a manner that would earn the confidence of the people of Illinois and all Americans.”

    As opposed to an election by the people whose trust has been so egregiously betrayed of course.
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    Dec 11, 2008, 12:10 PM

    Harry (body odor) Reid is getting nervous about that super majority stuff. I personally don't think he has much to worry about. 1/2 of the gang of 14 were Republicans.
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    Dec 11, 2008, 01:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The thing is ; we know OB1 has met with Guv Blogo ...we have the pictures to prove it. If Obama doesn't come clean this will dog him throughout his Presidency ;just like Whitewater did to the Clintoons
    The FBI claims that they have proof Obama was not involved. Do you think they are lying to protect him?
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    Dec 11, 2008, 01:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    We do know that apparently Rezko is singing and I'm sure that has a number of politicians sweating. I'm anxious to see how this plays out.

    Dirty Harry Reid wants Blago to step aside immediately before the Illinois legislature has a chance to call a special election and have Quinn make the appointment. All with the best intentions mind you, because that "would be the most expeditious way for a new Senator to be chosen and seated in a manner that would earn the confidence of the people of Illinois and all Americans.”

    As opposed to an election by the people whose trust has been so egregiously betrayed of course.
    Just the fact that these seats are appointed breeds corruption. If a senate seat is vacated, why would there not be a new election? It makes no sense.

    New York is going to have a circus as well for Hilary's seat. So far the front runners are Andrew Cuomo, his ex-wife's cousin Carolyn Kennedy and Fran "The Nanny" Drescher!

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