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    Dec 5, 2008, 08:24 AM
    Ignition proving failure
    Carrier model 58RAV. Once a month the heating system's led code shows 14 ignition proving failure,after a couple of hours it resets itself and everything is fine.What gives?
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    Dec 5, 2008, 04:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by azanger View Post
    Carrier model 58RAV. Once a month the heating system's led code shows 14 ignition proving failure,after a couple of hours it resets itself and everything is fine.What gives?

    You can try and clean the flame sensor. With a intermittent problem it is hard to say for sure.
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    Dec 5, 2008, 11:58 PM

    You must have the url for that pic memorized by now lol.
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    Dec 6, 2008, 03:37 AM
    Pic on the computer. I wish I had a better/different one. If you do not post a pic then they ask how to do it.
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    Dec 6, 2008, 03:12 PM

    I know. My comment was a round about way of saying that this is such a common problem and if people did some searching they would probably figure it out.
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    Dec 6, 2008, 03:35 PM
    People are lazy. It is easier to have someone else figure it out. As the economy gets worse more folks will be on here since they will not be able to afford to pay for service. The sad part about that is many of the items here should be seen by a professional at there home.
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    Dec 6, 2008, 04:02 PM

    Goes along with what I've always said, a simple, inexpensive clean and check would prevent so many of these problems.
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    Dec 6, 2008, 04:12 PM

    One can only hope that such individuals take better care of their cars...
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    Dec 6, 2008, 05:35 PM

    What? Are you saying there is maintenance to be done on cars. I thought you just run them till they don't run no more, then buy a new one.
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    Dec 6, 2008, 05:53 PM
    We have not seen anything yet. There are very few younger folks entering the HVAC trade and many who are should not be there to start with. The classes I put on at the university is interesting in the fact that many come just to get there credit hours for license renewal. Just from talking to them many have no idea of what is really going on in the industry and do not care either. They went into the HVAC biz thinking they would make big bucks but in order to really get the big $$$ you have to know what your are doing. Sad to say they spend there entire life chasing the $$$ when they should be chasing knowledge first since the money will flow a lot easier that way.
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    Dec 6, 2008, 06:50 PM

    That is a very interesting point you make and one I can confirm. I got into this business the age of 30. Graduated from HVAC/R school in '04 so I am fairly new to the business comparatively speaking. The guys in my class were a mix of those with book smarts but no mechanical aptitude and those that were the exact opposite. When I got out of school I figured I would make a ton of cash right out of the gate, also thought I new everything. I was obviously wrong on both accounts. I wasted a year working for Disney on Ice and realized I needed more experience and more knowledge. I currently work for a very very small company but that has given me plenty of opportunity to learn. The more I've learned the more my pay has increased. The way I have learned was to jump into new equipment and figure it out as I go. My main focus is commercial refrigeration so I know I still have plenty to learn lol.
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    Dec 6, 2008, 06:54 PM

    Helps to have an interest in your trade also. Not just an interest in money.
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    Dec 6, 2008, 09:12 PM
    There are many opportunities in this industry but you have to keep up with changing tech. I remember my days playing with good old R717. Out of my staff of 37 there were only 3 of us that really new what was up with Ammonia. There is very good money in that but it is usually in heavy commercial work. Niche markets are always the best since there is very little competition. I miss my little corporation but my time came and went so now I get to do what I want and when I want to do it. When you own a business you have way to many bosses called customers.LOL

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