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    Oct 7, 2008, 05:38 AM
    If the Bible is "The Word of God" then...
    Which version of The Word is correct.

    Now the main problem here is that, as with many manuscripts, The Bible has been transcribed many times down through the ages.

    This article got me thinking:

    What is probably the oldest known Bible is being digitised, reuniting its scattered parts for the first time since its discovery 160 years ago. It is markedly different from its modern equivalent. What's left out?
    Source: BBC NEWS | The rival to the Bible

    Now there are two referenced Ancient Bibles in this piece.
    Mostly it's about the Codex Sinaiticus, but also mentioned it the Codex Vaticanus.

    There are noticeable differences between these Codex, so where did the Modern Bible really come from and also how close to The Word of God is it really ?

    Please don't start bashing others opinions, as I'm really looking for a thought out discussion in all seriousness.
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    Oct 7, 2008, 05:44 AM
    The weird part is that even if one Bible is accepted by all Christians you still will have denominations based on strict adherence to certain parts based on interpretation hence the Jehovah's Witness, Baptists, Pentacosts, etc.
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    Oct 8, 2008, 04:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The weird part is that even if one Bible is accepted by all Christians you still will have denominations based on strict adherence to certain parts based on interpretation hence the Jehovah's Witness, Baptists, Pentacosts, etc.
    Indeed. And do not forget the HUMAN Bible selection was made around 300 AD, on what books would be part of the Bible. So this handwritten version of the Bible (from AD 500) was copied 200 years after that selection, almost surely from copies of copies of copies of the documents of AD 300. So it is clearly NOT a direct copy of the ORIGINAL documents (if ever a real collection of all the original documents existed) !
    The two additional NT books (and the lacking parts) makes it however rather very interesting to historians.

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    Oct 8, 2008, 07:12 PM

    Good question. Also, where online is this bible? No, I don't think the bible is the word of god. I think scripture is the bible. The word of god is the word of god. He's living, and speaks his thoughts to our hearts, through his holy spirit.

    Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, [even] the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said unto you.

    Rom 8:26 And in like manner the Spirit also helpeth our infirmity: for we know not how to pray as we ought; but the Spirit himself maketh intercession for [us] with groanings which cannot be uttered;
    Rom 8:27 and he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God.

    Hbr 9:14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish unto God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper [in the thing] whereto I sent it.

    Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh.
    Eze 36:27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep mine ordinances, and do them.
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    Oct 12, 2008, 09:22 AM

    Even if we are able to find the oldest Bible,how do we know there was not one before that,until we find another.

    I stand by what I always believe.:).
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    Oct 13, 2008, 04:40 AM

    What the reality to the Word of God summarizes is the result of choice in each individual's free will to believe in Christ within the heart, mind, and soul.

    There is no other result to understanding that the Word was made flesh and did reside with us. (and we recognize Christ in glory, as the begotten Son of God) who was given in love and of truth from God for us.

    John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    That summarized truth also brings confirmed fact, that the words will never pass away or end.

    The bible is the comfirmed facts which were witnessed and documented. So you could find new text of the bible or books, and it will still confirm of Christ.

    Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My Words shall not pass away.

    It is a summarized Choice
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    Oct 13, 2008, 12:00 PM

    I would have to agree with you sndbay. If it's the same god writing through the person who makes any bible, the message will still be the same. And with what information would the writer be using? The word of god in himself.
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    Oct 13, 2008, 04:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cogs View Post
    ... if it's the same god writing ....
    Indeed : IF!!

    :rolleyes:

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    Oct 14, 2008, 02:52 AM

    In 1880 the American Bible Society voted remove the "Apocrypha" Books from the King James Version- in addition-
    Emperor Constantine needed a set canon so he hired church leaders to vote which books that needed to be included- The Church leaders gathered together at the Council of Nicaea and voted the word of God into existence. The Church leaders didn't finish editing the holy scriptures until the Council of Trent when the Catholic Church pronounced the Canon closed.
    Here are some of the gospels that were voted out:
    The Gospel of Thomas
    The Infancy Gospel of Thomas
    The Gospel of Mary (Magdalene)
    The Infancy Gospel of James
    The Dialogue of the Savior
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    Oct 14, 2008, 04:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by spyderglass View Post
    In 1880 the American Bible Society voted .....
    And I thought this was an international Q&A and discussion board...

    :rolleyes:

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    Oct 14, 2008, 08:50 PM

    Yes, sorry- wasn't thinking

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