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        Dear Atlanta Tax Expert, 
 
I've been browsing through this forum and have found your responses quite informative. Considering April 17th is the deadline I have a question at the 11th hour. :o  
 
I came to US on H1B in Oct 10th 2004, for the first time. I was here till Jan 10th 2005, when I went to India (I am an Indian citizen). I came back to the US (to the same city) in April 05th 2005 and am here ever since. 
 
I have always been on H1-B Visa.  
 
According to the substantial presence test: 
 
Number of Days in 2005: 281 (viz. > 31 days) 
1/3rd of Days in 2004: 27.3 (82/3) 
1/6th of Days in 2003: 0 (0/6) 
 
Sums up to : ~308 days (viz. > 183 days) 
 
And more over ,2005 was not my first year in US.  
 
So, my question would be, do I qualify the Substantial Presence Test? 
If so, I assume I don't need to write DUAL-STATUS RETURN in the 1040 form?  
And I am eligible for standard deduction instead of the itemized deduction? 
 
Please let me know if my understanding is correct. A quick response would be extremely helpful. 
 
TIA  
kgkris
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        No, you do not meet the Substantial Presence Test; if you file immediately, you must file as a non-resident alien (Form 1040NR) and NOT get the standard deduction. 
 
You CAN wait until June 2006 to file as a resident alien under the First Year Choice.  You should mail an extension request (Form 4868) and mail a check if you determine that you owe taxes.  If you have a refund coming, no check is needed.  Mail the extension TODAY!
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        Thanks for the reply. 
Is it OK for me to file the 1040 (DUAL-STATUS RETURN) if I file today? 
 
Also, could you please explain which part of the substantial did I fail? (was the fact that I was not here in 2003?)
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        I also had another question regarding Form 4868.  
It talks about figuring out my total tax liability and amount paid for Federal Returns (for which I have a refund). 
When I file an extension, is applicable for both Federal and State taxes? 
 
I owe the state of Illinois as well. How do I pay that (and subsequenly mention it in Form 4868)? 
 
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        You will need to access the Illinois website to see what extension they use.  They may accept the Form 4868. 
 
If you are getting a refund, then just file the Form 4868 by itself. 
 
In my opinion, dual-status filing is not an option in your case.  Besides, it is a complicated return which will deny you your $5,000 standard deduction.
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        ATE, I'm not sure I agree with you. Why are you suggesting that he/she does not meet the substantial presence test? The days in 2005 clearly exceed 183.
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        Taxsearcher: 
 
You are correct.  I have been dealing with non-resident aliens on F-1 status that it seems to be imprinted on my eyeballs. 
 
Kgkris: 
 
You do meet Substantial Presence.  File Form 1040.
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        Thanks for all your responses. I have filed for an extension till Oct. I believe I will file for 1040 in the mean while.
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        Glad to help!
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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