[bryceandbriscoe]

My dog is 4 yrs old. I got him about 6 months ago from a shelter. He is fixed. He came with a dog buddy. So I have two dogs ages 4 and 5. The 4 yr old keeps peeing in the house. I will let him out. But when I bring him in he pees. I yell at him stick his nose in it and then lock him in the laundry room with the lights out alone for 30-60 minutes. Then I let him outside saying "poddy outside!" He comes back in and pees again. What can I do to make him stop?

[JudyKayTee]

My dog is 4 yrs old. I got him about 6 months ago from a shelter. He is fixed. He came with a dog buddy. So I have two dogs ages 4 and 5. The 4 yr old keeps peeing in the house. I will let him out. But when I bring him in he pees. I yell at him stick his nose in it and then lock him in the laundry room with the lights out alone for 30-60 minutes. Then I let him outside saying "poddy outside!" He comes back in and pees again. What can I do to make him stop?

Are you aware of the cruelty involved in sticking his nose in his pee?

A dog has a very brief attention span and the locking him in the dark serves no purpose.

He's probably peeing because he's afraid of you and is so afraid he has no idea what you want.

You should take him back to the shelter - both of them, in fact - so someone with some experience who isn't cruel can take them both.

I've done a lot of work in animal rescue - sounds like you are losing your temper with this dog.

[bryceandbriscoe]

I have been on different sights and some people say to put the dogs nose in it's pee, I have also read books that say that I should give the dog a "time-out"

[JudyKayTee]

I have been on different sights and some people say to put the dogs nose in it's pee, I have also read books that say that I should give the dog a "time-out"

I would like to know what "sights" say that. And a time out is "go stand over there," not that length of time in the dark.

Again - you have made your dog afraid of you.

Please post those "sights" because in my area putting the dog's nose in its pee or poop is animal abuse and dogs have actually been taken away from their owners.

I'd take another look at the Internet if I were you - there are many other ways to handle this problem (all thoroughly explained) although now that the dog is terrorized probably it's too late.

I'm sure you've had the dog Vet checked to make sure there is no physical problem.

These things infuriate me - I have had a number of abused and broken dogs due to neglect and abuse and what someone considered to be "training." Even more offensive is your defending your behavior.

In my area someone would track you through your internet address and you would be contacted - the animal rescues in my area are tough and I'm the first to say, occasionally unreasonable.

[bushg]

Keep the dog with you at all times and when he goes to pee... give a ahah or a grunt anything to stop the pee then take him out to finish. Don't scream or yell or tower over him. He must trust you in order to come to you no punishing is going to accomplish that and time out is not going to help.
If you don't catch him in the act of peeing then clean it up toss out the spoiled towel and let it go.

I trust that they are spayed/neutered and if they have just been altered this could be part of their old habits and will should get better with time and proper training.

[bryceandbriscoe]

I appreciate your answers and I will try all of your suggestions. JudyKayTee, I am not trying to be cruel to my dog, I just don't want him to pee in the house. I have been brought up with the practice of sticking the dogs nose in his pee to let him know that that is why I am angry and dissapointed in him. And my vet evan suggested it, when told about the dog's bad habit.

[simoneaugie]

bushg gave some good advice. Tether the dog to your belt (he will probably love it) whenever you are home so he can't sneak off and pee, till he learns that you will take him outside. A crate (4 hours max between potty breaks) can be helpful for the times you are away from home. Basically, do not let him have run of the house until you can trust him to pee outside.

[JudyKayTee]

I appreciate your answers and I will try all of your suggestions. JudyKayTee, I am not trying to be cruel to my dog, I just don't want him to pee in the house. I have been brought up with the practice of sticking the dogs nose in his pee to let him know that that is why I am angry and dissapointed in him. And my vet evan suggested it, when told about the dog's bad habit.

I hoped you weren't trying to be cruel. Cruel people (hopefully) don't go out and take in dogs that need to be rescued - and it's very, very difficult not to become angry, particularly when you're making a point and the dog isn't "getting it."

I am more than a little surprised that you found sites that recommend the practice, as well as your Vet's advice, though. More than a little surprised. Your Vet should be told that now the dog is somewhat afraid of you (which I think he is).

[bryceandbriscoe]

Thanks for all your advice! JudyKayTee, my grandmother had many dogs, she loved them to death. But the way she poddy-trained them was by sticking their nose in their pee. She was the kindest person every and would never hurt anyone or be cruel. All her dogs were healthy and well behaved.

[bushg]

Bryce... no one can tell you how to treat your dogs.
But dogs are so sensitive that they can learn to find cancer cells, pull people from rubble, take a item of clothing from one location and track the person to another location.
Do you really think in order for them to learn something they have to be belittled by having their noses rubbed in their own urine.

I bet if you watch his body posture then you will see the damage that has already be done to his spirit.

Just like I told my mom the other day about a dog of hers "you don't know any better until you learn better"... How do you learn? You have that one dog that suffers serious consequences/irreparable damage because of our human neglect, however unintentional... just because that is the way we live or have always done things.

I can sit here and tell you over and over that it is not humane to do that and you can site me a thousand cases of where it was OK or did not turn out badly... all it takes is that one dog to change your mind.

We have given you some solid advice you can keep on rubbing his nose in it or try a different method.

[bryceandbriscoe]

I will try a different method, and I appreciate your concern for my dog and for all your help. But it doesn't change the fact that I need him to stop peeing. My other dog doesn't pee in the house. And I got both of them at the same time.

[JudyKayTee]

I will try a different method, and I appreciate your concern for my dog and for all your help. But it doesn't change the fact that I need him to stop peeing. My other dog doesn't pee in the house. And I got both of them at the same time.

Two different dogs, two different sets of habit. People are different. Dogs are different.

Again - if you are growing angry and frustrated it is time to find this dog a new home.

[bryceandbriscoe]

Thanks for all your advice.