[speechlesstx]

It just keeps getting better in Denver

With DNC in mind, city bans carrying urine, feces

By Daniel J. Chacon

Originally published 01:38 p.m. August 4, 2008
Updated 11:00 a.m. August 5, 2008

Poo and pee dominated a public hearing Monday on a new law that prohibits people from carrying certain items if they intend to use them for nefarious purposes.

The law, crafted in advance of the Democratic National Convention, was adopted unanimously by the City Council.

But not before a hearing laced with comedy and profanity.

Representatives from some of the groups planning large-scale protests during the DNC this month said the ordinance was unnecessary and accused city officials of fear mongering.

"The intent of this ordinance is to try to smear protesters and make them look as if they are somehow criminal or somehow going to engage in some kind of gross conduct," said Glenn Spagnuolo, an organizer with the Re- create 68 Alliance.

The ordinance makes it illegal to carry certain items, such as chains, padlocks, carabiners and other locking devices. It also prohibits the possession of noxious substances. Two of the most frequently used examples of a noxious substance are a bucket of urine and a "feces bomb."

Police have to prove that people carrying such items intend to use them to block public access or emergency equipment or to thwart crowd control measures.

Safety Manager Al LaCabe said the law will be applied in situations when certain items are going to be used in a disruptive way. He said officers will consider the totality of the circumstances.

"Our intent for this bill is not about suppressing or chilling First Amendment rights," he said.

The hearing got personal when Spagnuolo took aim at Councilman Doug Linkhart, who was quoted in the New York Post as saying that a source told him that he knew of a home being used to store urine. "The only feces that I'm concerned about is the (expletive) that comes out of his mouth," Spagnuolo said.

Council members balked at the attack on Linkhart, noting that he was the one who requested the hearing.

Linkhart said a firefighter he trusts was his source. After the hearing, he said he didn't regret requesting it.

"I'd do it again," he said, adding that some of the points that protesters raised were valid.

© Rocky Mountain News

The obvious question to me is, is throwing a bucket of urine or a "feces bomb" protected speech? My how far we've come...

[Emland]

Does a "Feces Bomb" include the crap coming out of politicians' mouths?

Your story made me think of this pic

[speechlesstx]

Does a "Feces Bomb" include the crap coming out of politicians' mouths?

Your story made me think of this pic

LOL, love the pic.

[tomder55]

Is this a form of non-pooliferation ?

[NeedKarma]

So I assume it's republicans who are attempting to protest? With feces and urine? Stay classy GOP! LOL!

[tomder55]

Of course it isn't the Republicans . It's the recreate 68 crowd . The Code Pinkos.

[NeedKarma]

of course it aint the Repubicans . It's the recreate 68 crowd . The Code Pinkos.

Where does it say that in the article??

[tomder55]

I know of no plan by Republicans to protest the Denver DNC . But there are links all over the web for the nutroots to gather there .

MyFox Colorado | DNC Protesters Target Denver Mint

What Denver needs is a Mayor Daley .

[tomder55]

Kanye West will be performing at the DNC . That should be enough excrement for everyone .

Kanye West, Wyclef, Pharrell to perform for Barack Obama :: Culture Music News :: Articles :: Paste

[spitvenom]

Still mad that Kayne told the truth about Bush Tom.

[NeedKarma]

Still mad that Kayne told the truth about Bush Tom.

I think it may more related to the old guy disliking the 'new' music. McCain will likely have a swing band at the GOP convention: "Pennsylvania 6-5000" will win this campaign!

[tomder55]

It's the lyics... Sorry but I don't think the Administrators here would allow me to post examples.
But I'm sure the O'bots will love it.

[NeedKarma]

That's the problem these days, everyone is so politically correct.

[excon]

The obvious question to me is, is throwing a bucket of urine or a "feces bomb" protected speech? My how far we've come...

Hello Steve:

Throwing it is assault. Carrying it isn't. No, it's not a free speech issue. It's a freedom issue. They can't outlaw something because they think it will be used wrongly...

But, stupid politicians don't understand the laws of this great country. Pursuant to those laws, and the overarching United States Constitution, I say again, THINGS, cannot be outlawed. Only behavior can.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Where does it say that in the article???

"The intent of this ordinance is to try to smear protesters and make them look as if they are somehow criminal or somehow going to engage in some kind of gross conduct," said Glenn Spagnuolo, an organizer with the Re- create 68 Alliance"

[spitvenom]

Which Lyrics would that be Tom Kayne has A Lot of songs. Maybe it was this song.

[Intro]
I want everybody to put they hands together for me
I want to talk about somebody real special tonight (whooooaaaa)
OK, come on

[Chorus]
Hey Mama, ahhhhhhhhhh, I want to scream so loud for you
Cause I'm so proud of you, let me tell you what I'm about to do (Hey Mama)
I know I act a fool, but I promise you I'm going back to school
I appreciate what you allowed for me, I just want you to be proud of me (Hey Mama)

[Verse 1]
I want to tell the whole world about a friend of mine
This little light of mine, I'm feelin' let it shine
I'm feelin' take y'all back to them better times
I'm feelin' talk about my momma if y'all don't mind (Hey Mama)
I was 3 years old when you and I move to the Chi
Late December, harsh winter gave me a cold
You fix me up something that was good for my soul
Famous home chicken soup, can I have another bowl (Hey Mama)
You work late nights just to keep on the lights
Mommy got me training wheels so I can keep on my bike
And you would give me anything in this world
Michael Jackson leather and the glove, but didn't give me a curl (Hey Mama)
And you never put no man over me, and I love you for that mommy can't you see
Seven years old, caught you with tears in your eyes
Cause a nigga cheat and telling you lies, then I started to cry (Hey Mama)
As we knelt on the kitchen floor
I said mommy I'm a love you 'til you don't hurt no more
And when I'm older, you ain't got to work no more
And I'm a get you that mansion that we couldn't afford (Hey Mama)
See your unbreakable, unmistakable, highly capable, lady that's making loot
A living legend too, just look at what heaven do, send us an angel
And I thank you

[Chorus]

[Verse 2]
Forest Gump momma said, life was like a box of chocolates
My momma told me go to school, get your doctorate
Something to fall back on, you can profit with
But still supported me when I did the opposite (Hey Mama)
Now I feel like there's things I got to get, things I got to do
Just to prove to you, you was getting through
Can the choir please, gimme a verse of you, eyes so beautiful, to me (Hey Mama)
Can't you see, you're like a book of poetry, Maya Angelou, Nikki Giovanni
Turn one page and there's my mommy (Hey Mama)
Come on mommy just dance with me, let the whole world see you dance with thee
Now when I say hey, y'all say mama
Now everybody answer me

[Chorus]

[Interlude]
I guess it all depends though, if my ends low
Second they get up you gon' get that Benzo, tint the windows
Ride around the city and let your friends know (Hey Mama)

[Verse 3]
Tell your job you got to fake 'em out
Since you brought me in this world let me take you out
To a restaurant, upper echelon
I'm a get you a Jag whateva else you want (Hey Mama)
Just tell me what kind of S-Type Donda West like
Tell me the perfect color so I make it just right
It don't got to be Mother's Day, or your birthday, for me to just call and say

[Outro]
Hey Mama, ahhhhhhhhhh, I want to scream so loud for you
Cause I'm so proud of you, let me tell you what I'm about to do (Hey Mama)
You know I love you so, I'm going to let you go
I wrote this song just so you know no matter where you go I'ma love you...

Or maybe this song

"Jesus Walks"

Yo, We at war
We at war with terrorism, racism, and most of all we at war with ourselves
(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the Devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks with me) with me, with me, with me [fades]

You know what the Midwest is?
Young & Restless
Where restless (N*ggas) might snatch your necklace
And next these (N*ggas) might jack your Lexus
Somebody tell these (N*ggas) who Kanye West is
I walk through the valley of the Chi where death is
Top floor the view alone will leave you breathless Uhhhh!
Try to catch it Uhhhh! It's kind of hard hard
Getting choked by the detectives yeah yeah now check the method
They be asking us questions, harass and arrest us
Saying "we eat pieces of like you for breakfast"
Huh? You eat pieces of ? What's the basis?
We ain't going nowhere but got suits and cases
A trunk full of coke rental car from Avis
My momma used to say only Jesus can save us
Well momma I know I act a fool
But I'll be gone 'til November I got packs to move I Hope

[Hook x2]
(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the Devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks with me)
The only thing that that I pray is that my feet don't fail me now
(Jesus Walks)
And I don't think there is nothing I can do now to right my wrongs
(Jesus Walks with me)
I want to talk to God but I'm afraid because we ain't spoke in so long

To the hustlers, killers, murderers, drug dealers even the strippers
(Jesus walks with them)
To the victims of Welfare for we living in hell here hell yeah
(Jesus walks with them)
Now hear ye hear ye want to see Thee more clearly
I know he hear me when my feet get weary
Cause we're the almost nearly extinct
We rappers are role models we rap we don't think
I ain't here to argue about his facial features
Or here to convert atheists into believers
I'm just trying to say the way school need teachers
The way Kathie Lee needed Regis that's the way I need Jesus
So here go my single dog radio needs this
They say you can rap about anything except for Jesus
That means guns, sex, lies, video tapes
But if I talk about God my record won't get played Huh?
Well let this take away from my spins
Which will probably take away from my ends
Then I hope this take away from my sins
And bring the day that I'm dreaming about
Next time I'm in the club everybody screaming out

(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks)
The only thing that that I pray is that my feet don't fail me now
(Jesus Walks)
And I don't thing there's nothing I can do now to right my wrongs
(Jesus walks with me... fades)
I want to talk to God but I'm afraid because we ain't spoke in so long

[NeedKarma]

"The intent of this ordinance is to try to smear protesters and make them look as if they are somehow criminal or somehow going to engage in some kind of gross conduct," said Glenn Spagnuolo, an organizer with the Re- create 68 Alliance"

Thanks, I don't know how I missed that.

From their website:

'That spirit of participatory democracy culminated in 1968. Since then, a right-wing backlash has attempted to roll back the gains of those years, to “recreate” an America in which a ruling elite of wealthy, privileged white males and large corporations made a mockery of the promise of democracy. For the past 40 years, we have seen increasing economic inequality, a fierce attack on affirmative action and other programs aimed at aiding oppressed communities, an assault on civil liberties and, most recently, an attempt to equate political dissent with criminality or “terrorism.” Under the Bush administration, the right has come dangerously close to achieving their goal.. . The time is now to end the illegal occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan; to use the money being wasted there to meet the needs of the American people; to provide health care for everyone; to restore civil liberties; to create a humane immigration policy; to replace the tragedy of “free trade” with fair trade; to combat global warming; and to transform a corrupt, corporate-dominated political system into real democracy.

Aren't they protesting the wrong place?

[tomder55]

OK you forced me

Here is from "Breathe in Breathe Out:"

'Yeah, breathe in, breathe out
If ya iced up, pull ya sleeves out
Push a big truck, pull ya keys out
Girls go wild and pull ya deez out
Breathe in, breathe out
Let them hoes fight, pull her weave out
If a n*gga act up, pull a Desert E's out
When I pull the piece out n*ggas like "Peace out!" '

Or this from "Get 'Em High"

N-now, th-th-through ya mother~f*---ing hands
GET EM HIGH
All the girls pass the weed to ya mother~f*---ing man
GET EM HIGH
Now I ain't never tell you to put down ya hands
KEEP EM HIGH
And if ya losin yo high than smoke again"


I don't plan on reading all his lyrics. Obama has made it clear that he is a hip-hop fan. Good for him . Ludacris I hear is campaining for the VP slot. That's if Obama doesn't throw him under the bus first .

[NeedKarma]

ok you forced me

Here is from "Breathe in Breathe Out:"

Is it official that that is the song he will perform? Or did you pick one at random that you thought would be the most offensive?

[spitvenom]

Tom that was weak very very weak.