[JimShelt66]

:confused: I have replaced the flapper on our toilet because it was leaking. The flapper that I replaced was on a older style that the hooks are much closer together than the ones you see on the ones at the store. So I bought one that you fit the ring over the overflow tube. It was tricky at first to get it on cause it seemed to be the same size as the overflow tube but it did finally go over and slid down. At first it worked great, no more leaking. But now I notice that you start hearing the toilet kick in about every 20-30 minutes. And I looked into the toilet and found out that the flapper sometimes sets too much to one side. So I adjusted it and it then started setting too much to the other side. And I adjusted it again and it seemed to work then in a day it was right back doing it again. It does not matter just how much tweaking I do it does not last. I measured the flapper seat and it is little bit over 2 1/2 inches wide. Can you buy a wider flapper? Please help with any info you might have. Thanks. James
p.s. remember I have already trying to tweak it every which way possible and it does not seem to do the trick.:)

[hkstroud]

Sometimes the standard flapper just doesn't work. Could be because the drain and overflow assembly is a little different than the norm. Angle, size or spacing just a little different.
Get one of the kits below, empty tank completely and dry top edge of drain, apply the enclosed epoxy ring to top edge of drain then press assembly in place. Just make sure that the top edge of drain is dry and that you position assembly such that lever and chain work without interference. Good product, fixes a lot of problems.

[Milo Dolezal]

Jim, they make, and sell, all kind of floppers. They may look identical but they certainly are not. You should take your old flopper to the store and compare new one with the old one. There are some "universal fit" floppers but it is a crap-shoot, especially with older model toilets. Also, new flopper may leak even it is perfect match.

[JimShelt66]

Jim, they make, and sell, all kind of floppers. They may look identical but they certainly are not. You should take your old flopper to the store and compare new one with the old one. There are some "universal fit" floppers but it is a crap-shoot, especially with older model toilets. Also, new flopper may leak even it is perfect match.

The problem with the old flapper is that since I thought I fixed the problem the old flapper went into the trash never to be seen again. So I measured the drain where the flopper sits on and found it to be a bit I've 2 1/2 inches. The flapper I put on it just barely covers it. So it is a hit and miss when the flapper sets back down after flushing. In a reply to the first answer How to you remove the old one(not talking about flapper)? I seen where someone had a YouTube recording but it did not show how he romoved it. The picture just showed it already removed. Does it unscrew or what? Thanks you guys for your valuable info.
James

[hkstroud]

Just throw old flapper away. The Flusher fix it is epoxsied to top edge of drain with included epoxy putty ring. Probably make more sense when you see it

[JimShelt66]

Just throw old flapper away. The Flusher fix it is epoxsied to top edge of drain with included epoxy putty ring. Probably make more sense when you see it

I have thrown the old flopper away. But what I need to know is how to remove the flopper seat in order to put in the flopper fix that you showed in your first answer. I see threads but not for sure if it screws off or what. Thanks James
The "youtube" I watched does not show how they got it off. It is like watching those home improvement channels they always skip the part on how exactly it comes off.
Thanks James

[hkstroud]

You don't take any thing else off. You may have to remove the "ears" where the old flapper hooked on but I don't think so. It doesn't screw on, just epoxsied to top of drain opening.

[JimShelt66]

You don't take any thing else off. You may have to remove the "ears" where the old flapper hooked on but I don't think so. It doesn't screw on, just epoxsied to top of drain opening.

The flapper seat that is already in there is white with a ridge and it is the one I have attached the flapper tube on using the overflow tube ring. You do not take it off but leave it and put the new one with the epoxy right on top of it? So actually you still have the one that the flapper is used on(currently) and the new one? I am sorry this is sounding confusing to me. But I would think you would want to remove the one that is existing in the toilet and seat the new one on the actual toilet drain? Maybe I am making this harder than it seems. I am a lot like "Tim the tool man" everything I do seems to be a more harder than it should be. So sorry if I seem a bit confused because I am.
Or is the old one epoxyed on as well and how to do you remove that without breaking the tank?

[hkstroud]

Shown below is a toilet and overflow assembly. The change it, you have to take the tank off th ebowl, remove the nut on the underside of the tank that holes the assembly in place. You may have to also replace the donut gasket between the tank and the bowl. You then reassemble the tank to the bowl insuring that there is no leak around the bolts that hold the tank to the bowl.

You don't want to do that if you don't have to. Its too easy to break something.

You just remove the existing flapper and epoxy the flapper kit to the top rim of the drain opening.
Look at the flapper kit. It fits right in the drain hole.

[JimShelt66]

Shown below is a toilet and overflow assembly. The change it, you have to take the tank off th ebowl, remove the nut on the underside of the tank that holes the assembly in place. You may have to also replace the donut gasket between the tank and the bowl. You then reassemble the tank to the bowl insuring that there is no leak around the bolts that hold the tank to the bowl.

You don't want to do that if you don't have to. Its too easy to break something.

You just remove the existing flapper and epoxy the flapper kit to the top rim of the drain opening.
Look at the flapper kit. It fits right in the drain hole.

Thank you so much for taking the time to explain it in what I call "layman terms".
I appreciate it.
Thanks James

[afaroo]

Hi Jim

Every have explianed to you very well there is nothing for me to add to just, will just share this link and will tell step by step any thing you need in toilet tank, Good luck and have a nice day.

John

Replace The Toilet Fill Valve, Flush Valve Or Flapper

[JimShelt66]

Hi Jim,

Every one has explained to you very well just follow there instructions, I am also adding the following link it will help also just click on the link below and will show step by step replacement of all the toilet parts, Good luck.

John

Replace The Toilet Fill Valve, Flush Valve Or Flapper

Thanks James

[KISS]

One thing to be careful of is a short flush chain. The flapper should stay up in the water for a short time when the flush handle is used. If the chain is too short all sorts of problems like the ones you experienced will show it's ugly head,

[afaroo]

If you open the link way at the end will tell how to adjust the chain it should have a 1/4" to 1/2" of slack, Good Luck.

John

[pierson]

I have changed the flapper, but it will not go all the way down. If I manually push it, it will go down and seal. However if I just flush it, it will not go all the way down and seal.

[speedball1]

I have changed the flapper, but it will not go all the way down.

Has the linkage got 1/4" inch of play when the flapper's seated? Tom