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    LPL Posts: 1, Reputation: 1
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    Jun 27, 2008, 02:22 AM
    How to journalize dividend declared and payment before year end close accouts
    I have one case for our members to fix out in term of the dividend

    We have two respective companies (Com A and Com B)

    Com A declared and paid dividend to Com B, minority shareholder, with the amount of $60,000 in cash. The Com B paid 85% of the dividend income to its shareholders.

    Note: No any retained earning exists in the account as it is a new Company.

    Which one is the rignt transaction? Or another is needed


    Option 1: my own records

    (Dr) Cash on hand------ 60,000
    (Cr) Dividend income from Com A ----- $60,000

    (Dr) Dividend (Balance Sheet item)----- $ 60,000*0.85
    (Cr) Cash on hand---------------------------60,000*0.85

    Option 2: my friend recommends

    (Dr) Cash on hand------ 60,000
    (Cr) Dividend income from Com A ----- $60,000

    (Dr) Dividend expense(P&L item)----- $ 60,000*0.85
    (Cr) Cash on hand---------------------------60,000*0.85
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    Criado Posts: 142, Reputation: 15
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    Jun 28, 2008, 10:50 AM
    I think yours is better.

    Dividend is a reduction to retained earnings. Dividend Expense is not the proper account to use when a company declared dividend.

    Dividend account and Dividend Expense account are two different things.
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    Jul 2, 2008, 12:51 PM
    It still comes out of retained earnings. You didn't say which balance sheet account. The retained earnings has to have some kind of balance in it if it's year-end, whether positive or negative, unless you hit the 1 in 3 trillion possibility of actually breaking even to the penny. If retained earnings goes negative, so be it, and it's now a deficit. Curious though, why you're paying $60,000 in dividends when you have no income.

    If you prefer not messing with retained earnings until year-end, you can easily use a contra account called Cash Dividends, which is a debit balance equity account, and it sits in there until year-end. Part of the year-end closing would be to remove it from that account and then remove it from retained earnings. Cash Dividends is an account that offsets retained earnings.

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