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speechlesstx · May 30, 2008, 09:06 AM

The righteous left has a conniption fit over the alleged Bush "theocracy." The spiteful criticisms of "right-wing evangelical neocons" have been abundant on these pages. An alleged cross (or you can call it a bookcase) in a Huckabee ad stirred up all kinds of outrage.

You know what, I'm more than a little concerned with the Obamas disturbing comments and the portrayal of Barack "Vogue cover model, Esquire best dressed, best-selling author, Grammy winner, Harvard Law Review editor, master of the laws that govern the universe" Obama - the man who "sends a thrill up" Chris Matthews' leg - as some kind of savior. No?

Reuters has a nice photo of Michelle the Madonna, Newsweek changed their cover photo of Obama at the last minute this week to a more saintly image (reportedly at the behest of the editor's wife), and this piece of art that was displayed at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago:

Surely you've all heard about Michelle's "broken souls" remarks:

That is why I am here, because Barack Obama is the only person in this who understands that. That before we can work on the problems, we have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation...

To some Obama supporters that was an "amazing speech," not cause for concern. In his "Wellsleyan" speech on Sunday Obama said, "our individual salvation depends on collective salvation."

I find the remarks and the mania disturbing. It's not the government's role to heal our "broken" souls and my salvation is not dependent on Obama's collectivist gospel. It is government's job to ensure domestic tranquility and provide for the common defense, isn't it? Or at least it was while you were whining about Bush... did that change with Obama?

NeedKarma · May 30, 2008, 09:08 AM

Not sure what your point is.

speechlesstx · May 30, 2008, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Not sure what your point is.

If you try you might even find a question in there.

NeedKarma · May 30, 2008, 09:27 AM

Oh I see. The answer is no. I believe that they were talking about individuals changing their personal outlook, perhaps moving from a consumerist/materialistic mindthink to getting back to family.

speechlesstx · May 30, 2008, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Oh I see. The answer is no. I believe that they were talking about individuals changing their personal outlook, perhaps moving from a consumerist/materialistic mindthink to getting back to family.

Obama was obviously speaking against consumerism and for his collectivist society - while dressed impeccably after eating some expensive arugula from the Whole Foods Market and before returning to his $1.6 million mansion - but the message is for the "salvation of the nation." Michelle's quote in more context:

In 2008, we are still a nation that is too divided. We live in isolation, and because of that isolation, we fear one another. We don't know our neighbors, we don't talk, we believe our pain is our own. We don't realize that the struggles and challenges of all of us are the same. We are too isolated. And we are still a nation that is still too cynical. We look at it as "them" and "they" as opposed to "us". We don't engage because we are still too cynical.. .

Americans are not in debt because they live frivolously but because someone got sick. Even with insurance, the deductibles and the premiums are so high that people are still putting medications and treatments on credit cards. And they can't get out from under. I could go on and on, but this is how we're living, people, in 2008.

And things have gotten progressively worse throughout my lifetime, through Democratic and Republican administrations, it hasn't gotten better for regular folks.. .

We have lost the understanding that in a democracy, we have a mutual obligation to one another -- that we cannot measure the greatness of our society by the strongest and richest of us, but we have to measure our greatness by the least of these. That we have to compromise and sacrifice for one another in order to get things done. That is why I am here, because Barack Obama is the only person in this who understands that. That before we can work on the problems, we have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation.

To her, he is obviously the "savior of the nation" and only Obama understands the problems and the need to fix our broken souls in order to "heal" the country.

spitvenom · May 30, 2008, 09:57 AM

Speech thanks for that Washington post article That made me have even more respect for Senator Obama!! I knew you were a closet Obama supporter!!

NeedKarma · May 30, 2008, 10:05 AM

I agree with Spit. I like and agree the content of that quote.

ordinaryguy · May 30, 2008, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I'm more than a little concerned

....

I find the remarks and the mania disturbing.

I know how hard this must be for you. Perhaps talk therapy would help.

progunr · May 30, 2008, 10:18 AM

She needs to be speaking from the pulpit at the wonderful "Church" they have attended proudly, for over 20 years now.

What she said is far better than ANYTHING else I've heard shouted from that "so called" Church Pulpit.

Does someone, anyone, have audio of ANYTHING from that Pulpit that is not racially dividing, openly anti white and/or anti Jew?

I thought Rev. Wright was bad enough, now I've heard the Rev. Moss's comments as well as those of the visiting Catholic Priest, and both were truly disgusting to say the least.

No wonder this country still has so many problems between the races. It is bad enough for a young person, having to deal with the prejudices of their parents or grandparents but to hear this crap, where they go to Church, to learn about God, and loving thy neighbor, and about salvation is disgraceful to say the least.

Yet, no major TV news media, besides FOX, will even report this stuff.

speechlesstx · May 30, 2008, 10:21 AM

You do? In case anyone missed the quote:

Obama analyzed and integrated Einstein's theory of relativity, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to gravity, for a Law Review article that Tribe wrote titled, "The Curvature of Constitutional Space."

Perhaps the author should have consulted Obama, the concept of curved space is covered in Einstein's theory of relativity.

When I'm not being concerned about this sudden switch by the left to being in favor of a spiritual Messiah for president, I'm laughing at how they now approve of government being in the business of salvation and soul fixing... while protesting Intelligent Design in schools, the 10 commandments on government property and faith based initiatives. You guy's standards are awfully confusing...

tomder55 · May 30, 2008, 10:24 AM

Got to keep peeling the onion. For every hosanna we hear about his new age campaign we get reminders of the places he can't disown .

YouTube - Obama's Church: Why Hillary Cried - Father Michael Pfleger

By the way he preemptively threw this priest ;who he had also identified as a spiritual mentor ,under the bus . More road kill !

tomder55 · May 30, 2008, 10:27 AM

She needs to be speaking from the pulpit at the wonderful "Church" they have attended proudly, for over 20 years now.

What she said is far better than ANYTHING else I've heard shouted from that "so called" Church Pulpit.

Rumor has it that there is indeed a video of her ranting against Whitey from the pulpit. Purportedly it is being held back for the October Surprise.

NeedKarma · May 30, 2008, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

When I'm not being concerned about this sudden switch by the left to being in favor of a spiritual Messiah for president.

No one is calling him a 'spiritual Messiah' - just you and your mudracking.

tomder55 · May 30, 2008, 10:44 AM

MotherJones Blog: Barack Obama's Messiah Complex

Farrakhan Praises Obama as 'Hope of Entire World' - America's Election HQ

Under God: Is Obama a (or the) Messiah? - On Faith at washingtonpost.com

Me I think he's more like PT Barnum.

NeedKarma · May 30, 2008, 10:48 AM

Oh I see. Well those opinion pieces must be correct - he is the second coming of christ, we're all saved! It's a win-win!

speechlesstx · May 30, 2008, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

No one is calling him a 'spiritual Messiah' - just you and your mudracking.

You're a riot, NK. I'm not sure what mudracking is, but after 7 1/2 years of nonstop hatred toward Bush and all things Republican I'm having a blast watching the Dems out "mud rake" each other.

speechlesstx · May 30, 2008, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by ordinaryguy

I know how hard this must be for you. Perhaps talk therapy would help.

Very nice OG, but my need for therapy is far, far, far, far, far less over Obamamania than the poor, deluded broken souls suffering from BDS. :D

progunr · May 30, 2008, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Oh I see. Well those opinion pieces must be correct - he is the second coming of christ, we're all saved! It's a win-win!

Your post was practically correct, you just omitted the needed "anti" immediately following
The word of, and connected to the word christ.

He's much closer the description of that entity, than he is to Christ.

speechlesstx · May 30, 2008, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Me I think he's more like PT Barnum.

I see a lot of Jonas Nightingale in him.

NeedKarma · May 30, 2008, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by progunr

Your post was practically correct, you just omitted the needed "anti" immediately following
the word of, and connected to the word christ.

He's much closer the the description of that entity, than he is to Christ.

So there are people waging genocide in this world, serial killers wearing their victims' skin for kicks and you believe that Barack Obama is the anti-christ as professed in the bible? What leads you to believe this?