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    May 18, 2008, 02:56 AM
    Fugitive of the US
    Hello,

    I'm a fugitive of the USA, (credit card charges) I now live in Spain, I travel freely through Europe, Someone told me I can't travel to England. They have an agreement with the US. I'm wanting to go to Gibralter for the day. Does anyone know if there's truth to this?
    Thanks
    SantaCruz
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    May 18, 2008, 03:10 AM
    Why don't you just pay your debt ?
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    May 18, 2008, 06:36 AM
    Hello santa:

    In dealing with the law, specific terms are best to use...

    In the first place, you are NOT a fugitive... Unless, of course, you committed a crime and have a warrant out for your arrest.. If all you are doing is attempting to avoid paying your credit card bill, you're not a fugitive, you're a flake. However, you can be sued for these charges even in Europe.

    But, if you DID commit a felony, and there's a warrant out for your arrest, I think you're in jeopardy in EVERY country in Europe. I believe ALL of them have extradition treaties with the US. If you haven't been caught by now, I think you've just been lucky.

    excon
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    May 18, 2008, 11:50 AM
    Your current status is not fugitive, but this is not a goo solution because you can be sued for these charges no matter where you are. You'd better bring this issue to discussion with them on how to pay, when to pay, etc.
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    May 18, 2008, 01:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by santacruz
    Hello,

    I'm a fugitive of the USA, (credit card charges) I now live in Spain, I travel freely through Europe, Someone told me I can't travel to England. they have an agreement with the US. I'm wanting to go to Gibralter for the day. Does anyone know if theres truth to this?
    thanks
    SantaCruz
    Have you been charged with a crime?
    If so, how were you able to get a residency permit?

    If you were charged with a crime, you are in jeopardy in every EU Member State...

    Also - I keep reading that criminal convictions MUST keep people from getting residency permits in EU Member States. Well, the Member States do, indeed, keep denying residency permits, including student permits, based on ONLY on conviction records, but they actually are not supposed to this. I have a 20 year old misdemeanor record, and was told that I could not get a student permit for Germany.

    Well, that is not according to two letters I got from the Commission's Immigration and Asylum DG, and current "case law" ECJ opinions. Read Directive 64/221/EEC and the ECJ opinions related to residency permits and criminal convictions.
    (:eek: Your eyes will open, you'll see the light -and see just how unfair the notion that 20 year old records for "disorderly conduct" are no excuse to keep a good student from studying in Germany and advancing herself in the here and now! )
    The Member States, which are supposed to transcribe Directives into national law, are not supposed to deny residency permits based on criminal convictions alone and they must prove that one is a "taken on grounds of public policy or of public security shall be based exclusively on the personal conduct of the individual concerned" (Article 3).

    Yet - they keep doing this - and its going to take someone with some resources to hire a European immigration attorney and challenge these Scarlet Letter laws, "residency permit rules" in the Member States' courts and in the ECJ.
    :D

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