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    Feb 29, 2008, 11:09 AM
    Obama and NAFTA
    During Tues debate Obama and Evita traded gotcha charges about who is more serious about reforming NAFTA . This is an issue that resonates in Ohio where many people mistakenly blame NAFTA for job losses in the State. Both said they would deep six the treaty and renegotiate .

    According to Canadian TV however ,Obama had an operative contact the Canadians to assure them that he was just demagoguing the issue ;that he really planned no changes to the treaty if elected .

    The Obamans have denied the charge and said it was a smear. This did not sit well with the Canadians . Guess they don't like being called liars . So they released the name of the Obama flunkie involved . That would be Austan Goolsbee ;Obama's sr.economic adviser.
    CTV.ca | Obama campaign mum on NAFTA contact with Canada
    They are also reporting that Canadian officials are confirming the story.

    So is Obama that great agent of change that the people of Ohio are praying for or is he just pandering and playing politics as usual ? This gaffe could change the tide in Ohio and be the thing that propels Evita to a must win victory there .
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    Feb 29, 2008, 11:30 AM
    ... "the Canadians"?? What the heck are you talking about? All of them? The Prime Minister? Who??

    ... "According to Canadian TV however ,Obama had an operative contact the Canadians to assure them that he was just demagogue-ing the issue ;that he really planned no changes to the treaty if elected..."

    Had an "operative" contact "the Canadians"... just demagogue-ing? BWAH HA HA
    THIS IS JUST MADE UP!!

    **If you're going to try to smear Obama, put some facts in your slime**

    [Canada is America's largest trading partner for those who don't know that.]
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    Feb 29, 2008, 11:41 AM
    Oops? Obama is nothing but smoke and mirrors with a preacher's voice. Like I pointed out yesterday he's been running around Texas advertising he's the only candidate that doesn't take special interest money for his campaign. Smoke and mirrors. His rhetoric on Iraq is smoke and mirrors. Now he's talking out of both sides of his mouth on NAFTA? This could be devastating to his campaign - I wonder the Slimes will dare explore this in any detail? That thud you hear is the thrill falling back down Chris Matthews' leg :D
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    Feb 29, 2008, 11:46 AM
    Read the link . The Report is from CTV (Canadian TV )

    Then read this one
    Canada's prime minister warns US it would be making a mistake to reopen NAFTA - International Herald Tribune

    Then read Evita's team's response :

    "I frankly have found the Obama campaign's responses to this less than definitive. Has Austan Goolsbee had any contact with anyone in the Canadian government, in the Canadian emabssy, or tried to send a message to individuals there to indicate that Senator Obama's criticism of NAFTA was not sincere? It's a simple question."

    "If the Canadian reporting is true, it is a major development in this campaign. He is saying one thing and doing another."
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    Feb 29, 2008, 11:48 AM
    SLIME SLIME AND MORE SLIME... from the angry white men above who don't want a **BLACK MAN** elected President of America.

    Obama's stand on issues were delineated in his debates with Hillary... and you can check out his website. :)
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    Feb 29, 2008, 11:50 AM
    He of course is way off in his rhetoric about NAFTA . The question is ;what does he really think ?
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    Feb 29, 2008, 11:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Choux
    SLIME SLIME AND MORE SLIME... from the angry white men above who don't want a **BLACK MAN** elected President of America.
    I always get a good chuckle when you talk about folks sliming others. Besides, maybe we just don't want the white half of Obama elected :D

    Obama's stand on issues were delineated in his debates with Hillary... and you can check out his website. :)
    What a politician says and what he/she means are not always the same, now are they?
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    Feb 29, 2008, 11:57 AM
    ... John McSame... accepted the endorsement of a Texas MInister who said that the Bible ***SAYS TO INVADE IRAN***!!

    Both of them are a couple of mindless warmongers, like yourselves, angry white men.
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    Feb 29, 2008, 04:44 PM
    Protectionism plain and simple...
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    Mar 1, 2008, 03:05 AM
    They are lying through their teeth . They will not scrap NAFTA because it has been a net bonus for the US and they know it.

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