[ntrouble518]

So she got caught giving out credit card numbers from her place of employment. She was not using them for personal use but she was giving them to her boyfriend who was in turn giving them to his brother so that he could use them. It turns out that the FEDS have had an open case on the brother for about three years now. She just started giving him numbers about 2 months ago. Anyway, the Special Agent working on the case was called in... she got fired and now the AGent wants her help in catching the brother. She has no criminal record and she is now working with the Agent to help bring down the brother. She was advised that since she is helping she might ot receive any jail time... just probation. So we're not too sure if she should just keep helping the Agent or seek a lawyer in ths matter because right now she's just afraid of doing any jail time and having it on her record. I mean she's a good person she just got caught doing a really bad thing. Does anyone think that she will do any jail time? Its not as if she's been giving out number for the past three years (thats how long the case has been open). What can happen to her> Please Help!

[excon]

Hello:

Good people don't snitch on their partners to avoid going to jail themselves.

I'm certain the cops won't think she's been involved the past three years, either. They're really good people and if she just tells them, they'll believe her.

excon

[Fr_Chuck]

First I am sure she has an attorney who has a written agreement with the Federal DA that has this all spelled out.
Since the promice of a police officer is not binding, ( they are allowed to lie)

They can merely use her to convict him, and then just convict her ( since all of this is confessing to the crime)

Also each card number can be viewed as an individual crime, so supplying those numbers each one is a separate felony, she could face some seroius prison time for this.

And if they wanted her bad enough, she should be getting a free ride, not "just probation"

Next she should remember she can face civil ( law suits) from not only the store but the credit card companies for their loses.

And I don't understand, you are trying to make this sound like giving out the numbers is not a big deal, she can be held responsible for all of the theifs that come from this.

[shygrneyzs]

I'm certain the cops won't think she's been involved the past three years, either. They're really good people and if she just tells them, they'll believe her.

excon

Cough cough. Yes, I am sure of that too. Especially the really good people part. I do agree with Fr. Chuck on the part that each time she gave a credit card number, is a separate charge. Different people, different companies. The store she worked at can press charges, the companies can, and the people whose numbers she gave away can charge her. If she does not have an attorney by know she has not been well informed of what could happen to her.

[JudyKayTee]

So she got caught giving out credit card numbers from her place of employment. She was not using them for personal use but she was giving them to her boyfriend who was in turn giving them to his brother so that he could use them. It turns out that the FEDS have had an open case on the brother for about three years now. She just started giving him numbers about 2 months ago. Anyway, the Special Agent working on the case was called in... she got fired and now the AGent wants her help in catching the brother. She has no criminal record and she is now working with the Agent to help bring down the brother. She was advised that since she is helping she might ot receive any jail time... just probation. So we're not too sure if she should just keep helping the Agent or seek a lawyer in ths matter because right now she's just afraid of doing any jail time and having it on her record. I mean she's a good person she just got caught doing a realy bad thing. Does anyone think that she will do any jail time? Its not as if shes been giving out number for the past three years (thats how long the case has been open). What can happen to her> Please Help!

This is not legal advice - this is coming from a position of personal outrage at your post, at your nonchalance, at your excuses, assuming "she" is "you."

Here's the story - "her" husband collapsed and was taken to the ER by ambulance, he had emergency surgery, when "she" went into ICU "she" was given his (expensive) watch and told his other belongings had been locked in the hospital safe, 3 days later "she" asked for his belongings and was given his keys, wallet, wedding ring.

Funny thing. When your husband is dying and you're watching life as "you" know it end it doesn't cross your mind that someone would stand next to "your" dying husband and go through his wallet, taking his credit card information. Some money was still in his wallet - although "she" had no idea how much he was carrying - but everything seemed to be in order.

"Her" husband is dead seven and a half weeks and three days ago "she" got his credit card bill - with over $6,000 in on line purchases within the past three weeks. And, yes, his credit card is in his wallet. Now that "she" can finally sleep more than 3 hours a night "she" gets to re-live it all over again: call creditors, explain the situation, forward copies of the death certificate, notify the credit bureaus, meet with hospital security - which, by the way, has coincidentally terminated one of the aides. Apparently this has happened on "his shift" before.

Someone copied down "her" husband's info and put his credit card back in his wallet and the wallet was returned to "her." When "her" husband was dying it never occurred to "her" to cancel a credit card "she" had in "her" possession.

So what do I think of your scenario when "she" JUST STARTED giving him credit card numbers two months ago? I think "she" is a cheat and a thief, a liar who lied to her customers and her employer, a behind-the-scene coward and not even loyal to her fellow conspirators because rather than do the time "she" is going to "help bring down the brother." And the concern is that this might be on "her" record - ! Of course it will. It's called STEALING.

And not to mince words - don't give me the "I mean, she's a good person; she just got caught doing a really bad thing" crap. "Good people" don't steal from other people. I'd love to hear your definition of just what a bad person is - and you seem surprised that "she" got fired?

And what should happen to her because "it's not as if she's been giving out numbers for the past three years"? No, she's only been ruining lives for - give or take - two months.

What do I think should happen to her? I think the people who had their credit cards compromised should be given her name, address and photograph but I don't see that happening so let me get back to you on that.

Or she should stand trial - where do "I" sign up for jury duty?

[Fr_Chuck]

I will agree with Judy here except I think she really thinks too highly of this perosn. What about the person who may have his child at a park and can't get in becaue the card is now over its limit, or the wife who does not believe her husband did not charge off that and divorces him.

Or even me, who has to pay high costs at the store because of the theft, or high card rates because of card loses.

I was trying to stay in the legal mode bu Judy got me started going on this. On the legal side as a police officer we used to always tell a suspect that if they told us this or that, we would say a good word to the DA, we did, the good word was lock them up. Unless the DA has made the promise it has no value what so ever

[twinkiedooter]

I'd like to know what "she" got out of all the different credit card numbers "she" supplied to her boyfriend's brother. Did "she" get any money in return for this theft of information or did "she" do it out of the goodness of her heart so that her boyfriend's brother could rake in thousands and thousands of dollars and not give her anything as she was so nice and wonderful that she didn't need anything in return?

We are NOT a bunch of dummies by a long shot here.

She has got to either take her chances with the FBI and hope that they can "put in a good word" for "her" when she gets sentenced OR "she" can get herself a good criminal attorney and hope that somehow she can convince a jury that she had no idea that this was against the law and she was just being a nice person giving away all those credit card numbers.

You know, it's the nice people like you who should have been taught right from wrong by your parents.

Where do I sign up for jury duty, Judy?