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    Dec 1, 2007, 02:30 AM
    A Sign?
    Hi I'm Riley and I am 13 years old. I have been reading and learning about modern day Spiritualism (Astrology, Crystal Meditation, Psychics esc.). Part of what I believe is that everbody has Spiritual Guides, or "Angels", that help steer you in the right direction in life and sometimes give symbolic signs in the world around you to make you see the right direction.
    Well anyway, lately I have been having experiences with signs, actually a specific sign..
    I keep just thinking occasionally "oh i wonder what time it is" and I keep seeing the time 11:11, usually PM but sometimes AM, I kept just marking it off as a coincidence until today: Because today I just casually downloaded a game, unaware of its file size, and how big does the file happen to be? No other number but 11.11 MB! This is really starting to freak me out, what could it mean? Help please.
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    Dec 1, 2007, 08:26 AM
    Over the past few years many people have been saying they have been seeing the same 1:11, 11:11, etc. Many call in to coast to coast saying that all the time.
    COAST TO COAST AM WITH GEORGE NOORY
    Nobody is sure why
    Here is some of what people are guessing
    The mystery of 111 and other triple numbers. - amazing.com

    111 Experiences at www.AngelScribe.com

    You need to be careful because you can be opening yourself to demonic spirits because not all spiritual realm things are of God. Pray that you do not cross the line, from what you have said it seems you are checking things that are not of God. S0ME things to steer clear of include Astrology, Crystal Meditation, Psychics and astroprojection, channeling and contacting the dead.
    As far as psychics God will show you things in your own spirit, you are not suppose to seek psychics for answers.
    I do basic numerology, but the Karma and astrology parts are not good to dabble with or get involved in.
    It is important to pray for discernment.
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    Dec 1, 2007, 08:47 AM
    I didn't asked to be scrutinized >.<. Let me make one thing clear: I DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD! I'm not some kind of anti-Christ or anything like that, I understand that people can take great comfort in many aspects of religion, I am simply not one of them. Please do not preach. It really isn't your place to decide that things such as astrology and psychics are "evil" and "wrong." You only fear it because you do not understand it. I think if you actually did some RESEARCH into modern spirituality you would find that we believe in light, and love. I don't know where the hell you get your info from but its DEAD WRONG.

    Can I get an answer from somebody who isn't a stupid religious nut?
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    Dec 1, 2007, 08:47 AM
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    I didn't ask to be scrutenized!
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    Dec 1, 2007, 09:03 AM
    If you check the sites I gave you you will see they are not religious and will give you an idea from people seeing 111 and Coast to Coast is listened to by more spiritualists than by Christians
    (or 'religious nuts' which I am not)
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    Dec 1, 2007, 09:03 AM
    I was more referring to the second paragraph about "God" and all that nonsense
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    Dec 1, 2007, 09:05 AM
    Wow! Please calm down and really look at what NOhelp4u has written. A lot of time was spent writing the post. If I were you, I would at least thank NOhelp4u for the time spent in composing an answer for you. I for one, think that NOhelp4u provided some excellent information and also resources for you concerning your question. I see nothing in NOhelp4u's answer that I would consider to be preaching, but rather an admonition as to what you might be getting into with searching for the things that you are. What is it exactly that you are seeking?
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    Dec 1, 2007, 09:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Rilenator
    I was more refering to the second paragraph about "God" and all that nonsense
    Some of us do not like to refer to God as nonsense. Can you respect that? I will respect what you believe if you will not call what others to believe as being nonsense.
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    Dec 1, 2007, 09:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Clough
    Some of us do not like to refer to God as nonsense. Can you respect that? I will respect what you believe if you will not call what others to believe as being nonsense.

    Exactly!
    I am open to the spiritual things that most Christians want to run from, but I know in my heart of hearts there is God.

    Hmmmm, I'm inspired for a new topic post!
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    Dec 1, 2007, 09:34 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by N0help4u
    Exactly!
    I am open to the spiritual things that most Christians want to run from, but I know in my heart of hearts there is God.

    hmmmm, I'm inspired for a new topic post!
    Then I would suggest going for it and starting one! What would you call the title of the new thread?
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    Dec 1, 2007, 09:39 AM
    I totally agree with both you guys, definitely NOT the OP. Writing comments about God and referring to it as nonsense is very offensive to those that believe in God. Based on what you are saying and how you have responded in your posts, I'm sure not too many people will keep your counsel as to the existence of God or not!
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    Dec 1, 2007, 09:39 AM
    Just did it
    Where do your signs come from?
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    Dec 2, 2007, 01:20 AM
    Okay I am sorry for what I said I was in a little bit of a bad mood. I do respect others beleifs and will make sure it does not happen again. Also thanks for the links, they have led me on a large search for answers that will likely change my life forever. But keep in mind that you DID kind of "rile me up" by instantly labeling the types of things that I practice as 'demonic' and I'm pretty sure you were insinuating that it is evil to do those things. Lets just agree to disagree ;) Once again I Apologize to those who were offended by my earlier comment.

    Case Closed.
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    Dec 2, 2007, 07:14 AM
    If you read my where do signs come from post. You might understand where I am coming from better... and if you reply I might understand better where you are coming from...
    I believe everything comes from one of two opposing forces. I hear people say they are Wiccan or they are Spiritualists but they do not believe in God... so where do they think these things come from?

    Anyway, I have heard too many stories of people getting in too deep and bad spirits end up controlling them and so forth. I am into the paranormal stuff, totally hooked on listening to Coast to Coast and I love doing numerology profiles; but I don't want to end up on the wrong end of things. I have seen demon manifestions when my friends were 'casting out demons' and one time it totally took ALL my energy for almost an hour.
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    Dec 2, 2007, 04:15 PM
    Ah I think I know what you mean. I don't do things like Voodoo, Black Magic (I practice White magic) weegie boards esc. As they call confused, enraged, evil or the rare occasion of good spirits that are trapped between our 'realm' and the next.Anyway I doubt people want to read my ramblings and this thread has gone quite off topic (although I'm mostly to blame) :P
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    Dec 2, 2007, 10:16 PM
    Originally Posted by NOhelp4u
    If you read my where do signs come from post. You might understand where I am coming from better... and if you reply I might understand better where you are coming from...
    Originally Posted by Rilenator
    Anyway I doubt people want to read my ramblings and this thread has gone quite off topic (although I'm mostly to blame) :P
    Oftentimes on this site, it is very helpful and necessary if people do try to come to understandings as exactly each person is meaning. With subjects like this, it isn't always a black and white matter of "ask question - receive correct answer." I for one, am glad to see this type of discussion happening on this thread. There have been too many times on certain threads on this site where individuals have simply stated what they thought without given any credence or merit to what another is saying.
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    Dec 23, 2007, 04:26 PM
    While I disagree strongly with the OP's way of addressing N0help, I can somewhat understand where he/she's coming from as a 13 year old kid. So many people are brought up in a family/society where Christian values/norms are presented as absolute, and when they find their own path that is different, they become very defensive when they even think that someone may be trying to convince them of something otherwise.

    N0help, I know that your intentions were good, and you were stating what you believe to be dangerous and providing it as a warning- perhaps prefacing your statement with 'as I christian, I believe... ' rather than saying 'this is dangerous, these are things to steer away from'. Just a thought- no offense intended at all, but from the perspective of someone who's only 13, it could be taken out of context easily.

    And to the OP- try not to overreact to things like that. Sometimes, people are trying to steer you one way or another, or trying to sway you from your beliefs, or are being blatantly judgmental and condescending- but sometimes they are giving you what they believe to be good advice based upon their beliefs and are just being genuine. N0help's post was not intended to be offensive to you, at least from what I can tell. Jumping to conclusions about people and labeling them as 'religious nuts' is just as bad as 'religious nuts' jumping to conclusions about new-agers, atheists, and the like and labeling them as 'anti-christian'. I know that you're young and most likely just getting your feet wet in regard to sorting out your own beliefs- just be careful that you don't become like those you dislike by making assumptions about others. And calling other people's beliefs 'nonsense'- to you, it may be. And to them, your beliefs may seem like 'nonsense'. You can think whatever you like, believe what you like, and say what you like, so long as you do it tactfully and respectfully. Your young, and it takes practice and discipline and experience- just try to be careful with how you address people.

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