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    Sep 7, 2007, 01:45 PM
    Battery Offence - Case Dismissed - Expungment Information Required
    Hi,



    My criminal case about battery offense was recently dismissed (not convicted) by the county court. This is the first offense ever. It happened in State of GA. I am working on getting the records expunged. I wanted to understand that if a crime took place in a certain city or county and the county/city court dismissed it, where are these records of criminal activities and realated details reflected? Does federal, state , county/city and online databases all keep the records? What is the process to follow to get it expunged from all the places. Is there an an agency someone can suggest where I can buy a copy of the report ?

    Please advise.
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    Sep 7, 2007, 05:00 PM
    Hello Sammy:

    The only public records regarding yourself would be those of your convictions. Since there wasn't a conviction, there are no public records to be expunged.

    excon
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    Sep 8, 2007, 07:57 PM
    If the case was dismissed and you weren't convicted then there is no record and nothing that needs to be expunged.
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    Sep 10, 2007, 09:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon
    Hello Sammy:

    The only public records regarding yourself would be those of your convictions. Since there wasn't a conviction, there are no public records to be expunged.

    excon


    Hi,



    My criminal case about battery offense was recently dismissed (not convicted) by the county court. This is the first offense ever. It happened in State of GA. However during the arrest , I was fingerprinted and photographed. I am concerned that my records of arrest will show up somwhere in the online database or database of city, state or federal

    I am working on getting the records expunged. I wanted to understand that if a crime took place in a certain city or county and the county/city court dismissed it, where are these records of criminal activities and realated details reflected? Does federal, state , county/city and online databases all keep the records? What is the process to follow to get it expunged from all the places.

    Is there an an agency someone can suggest where i can buy a copy of the report to see what my records reflect ?
    Please advise.
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    Sep 10, 2007, 09:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by s_cianci
    If the case was dismissed and you weren't convicted then there is no record and nothing that needs to be expunged.


    Hi,



    My criminal case about battery offense was recently dismissed (not convicted) by the county court. This is the first offense ever. It happened in State of GA. However during the arrest , I was fingerprinted and photographed. I am concerned that my records of arrest will show up somwhere in the online database or database of city, state or federal


    Is there an an agency someone can suggest where i can buy a copy of the report to see what my records reflect ?
    Please advise.
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    Sep 10, 2007, 09:20 AM
    Hello again, Sammy:

    Oh, I understand what you're talking about. I'm just telling you that the only records that can be expunged ACCORDING TO LAW are public records. I also mentioned that in your case, since there was no conviction, there are NO public records to be expunged.

    That doesn't mean that the cops didn't keep records. Oh no. They DID. They kept EVERYTHING. Yes, your photograph and your fingerprints are in the files of the FBI in Washington, DC. I don't know what else the FBI knows about you, or the ATF for that matter. Given who these people are, I think they know plenty.

    However, those records AREN'T public and aren't subject to expungement. There is NO law that I know of that can force a police agency to destroy their records.

    Can you find out what they know?? Kind of and maybe. There is no "report", as you assume. In the marketplace there are good reports and there are bad reports, just like there are good burgers and bad burgers. It really depends on how much money you (or anyone else who's looking) is willing to spend.

    Is there a report that can be purchased that will reveal everything the cops know about you?? I'm sure there is. Unless, of course, you trust the cops. I don't. Are there reports that miss everything?? Yes.

    excon
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    Sep 10, 2007, 09:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon
    Hello again, Sammy:

    Oh, I understand what you're talking about. I'm just telling you that the only records that can be expunged ACCORDING TO LAW are public records. I also mentioned that in your case, since there was no conviction, there are NO public records to be expunged.

    That doesn't mean that the cops didn't keep records. Oh no. They DID. They kept EVERYTHING. Yes, your photograph and your fingerprints are in the files of the FBI in Washington, DC. I dunno what else the FBI knows about you, or the ATF for that matter. Given who these people are, I think they know plenty.

    However, those records AREN'T public and aren't subject to expungement. There is NO law that I know of that can force a police agency to destroy their records.

    Can you find out what they know???? Kinda and maybe. There is no "report", as you assume. In the marketplace there are good reports and there are bad reports, just like there are good burgers and bad burgers. It really depends on how much money you (or anyone else who's looking) is willing to spend.

    Is there a report that can be purchased that will reveal everything the cops know about you???? I'm sure there is. Unless, of course, you trust the cops. I don't. Are there reports that miss everything??? Yes.

    excon

    Hi There,

    Thanks for all the information. I am not sure I clearly understand your comments. Is it okay for me to call up court and check with them where the records are stored? Or do you know of any agencies where I can buy the report to see where all the reports are stored and take necessary actions. Does FBI really store all this information even if the case was dismissed?

    What do you suggest?
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    Sep 10, 2007, 09:48 AM
    I think the answers have been very clear at this point.

    Yes the FBI does keep your fingerprints on file and along with that file is the reason the fingerprints were obtained.

    No, you cannot do anything about that.

    The only PUBLIC record would be one of a conviction. Since the charges were dismissed there is no PUBLIC record for you to find. That should be all that concerns you. The only time the full record would come into play is if you were arrested for some other crime.

    What has been suggested is that you forget about it.
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    Sep 10, 2007, 10:08 AM
    Sammy, Dude:

    How much clearer can I be?? The only public records that can be expunged are those records that indicate you were convicted. Those would be certain computerized records kept in the NCIC computer kept by the FBI in Washington, DC.

    You HAVE NO CONVICTION; therefore there is nothing (no computerized dots and dashes) to be expunged.

    Even if you were eligible for some sort of exungment, it would NOT mean that every agency that has records of your arrest must destroy them. They do not, and would not.

    You can call anybody you like. The court may have a file noting your court appearances, and a dismissed charge. You can even ask them to destroy it if you want. Good luck with that. You can call the local cops and ask them to do the same and I suppose you can call the FBI and ask them to do it too. I think they'll laugh at you.

    Do I know any agencies you can go to?? A government agency?? Dude?? Like what? The United States Bureau of Helping People Expunge Records That Aren't There?

    Are there background search companies that will take your money? Dude again. Do a Google search for background search companies. Look in your phone book. You can choose from about a million of 'em. Are you going to get the same product from all of them? Dude, a third time.

    Given what I've told you, I suggest you find something more productive to do. Of course, if you doubt me, you can always hire a lawyer. I'm sure you can find one of those who will take your money too.

    excon
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    Sep 10, 2007, 11:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon
    Sammy, Dude:

    How much clearer can I be???? The only public records that can be expunged are those records that indicate you were convicted. Those would be certain computerized records kept in the NCIC computer kept by the FBI in Washington, DC.

    You HAVE NO CONVICTION; therefore there is nothing (no computerized dots and dashes) to be expunged.

    Even if you were eligible for some sort of exungment, it would NOT mean that every agency that has records of your arrest must destroy them. They do not, and would not.

    You can call anybody you like. The court may have a file noting your court appearances, and a dismissed charge. You can even ask them to destroy it if you want. Good luck with that. You can call the local cops and ask them to do the same and I suppose you can call the FBI and ask them to do it too. I think they’ll laugh at you.

    Do I know any agencies you can go to???? A government agency???? Dude??? Like what? The United States Bureau of Helping People Expunge Records That Aren't There?

    Are there background search companies that will take your money? Dude again. Do a google search for background search companies. Look in your phone book. You can choose from about a million of ‘em. Are you gonna get the same product from all of them? Dude, a third time.

    Given what I've told you, I suggest you find something more productive to do. Of course, if you doubt me, you can always hire a lawyer. I'm sure you can find one of those who will take your money too.

    excon

    I am sorry to be asking too many questions. This is my first offense ever and I am really concerned about the charges put on me. Here is a link I came across and looks believeable... But as per you , I will still pull out a background check report to make sure things are okay.

    Records Removal Services | Expunge, Seal, Pardon


    Did you have a similar situation in past or have a legal practice background? You sound very confident about what you say. Please check the link above... Thanks.
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    Sep 10, 2007, 11:31 AM
    Save your money, that's a scam. They are not telling the truth. The truth is you do not have a criminal record unless you were convicted as we have been telling you. There is no way they can expunge an arrest record.

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