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    Apr 8, 2006, 10:41 AM
    Labour issues in France
    I just recently heard about something that's been going on in France about labour. I hear that France changed the minimum age at which a worker can be fired with no reason (or something). This sounds pretty interesting. But I've been having some trouble finding specific info online. Can anyone give me a brief update on what exactly has been going on?

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    Apr 8, 2006, 04:14 PM
    "The controversial bill, entitled the Contrat première embauche (CPE - First Employment Contract or Beginning Workers Contract), would make it easier for workers under twenty-six years old to be fired. It allows employers the opportunity to terminate employment of workers under twenty-six without any reason, with little or no notice, within their first two years of employment.

    Those opposed to the First Employment Contract are worried that it could compromise job security, encourage social pressure with a view to lowering wages, and impede employees in having legal recourse in cases of sexual harassment, since this could lead to their subsequently being fired.

    Meanwhile, proponents of the bill claim that high unemployment in the French youth was caused by the present labor laws instead of lack of economic growth."

    Read more at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_la...ests_in_France
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    Apr 8, 2006, 06:48 PM
    Yes currently it is close to impossible to fire someone, I understand it can take up to a couple years even for fairly good cause.

    So of course those who are perhaps less good workers ( maybe those unemployed) would not want that.

    Of course they are use to Europe level of employment and rules. Had they have to come to the US they would consider our rules barbaric. We can actually fire someone for no reason in many states and for cause you can fire a person in all states.

    And we don't even have to give paid vacations and expect you to work everyday and even be on time.
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    Apr 8, 2006, 09:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
    Yes currently it is close to impossible to fire someone, I understand it can take up to a couple years even for fairly good cause.

    So of course those who are perhaps less good workers ( maybe those unemployed) would not want that.

    Of course they are use to Europe level of employment and rules. Had they have to come to the US they would consider our rules barbaric. We can actually fire someone for no reason in many states and for cause you can fire a person in all states.

    And we don't even have to give paid vacations and expect you to work everyday and even be on time.
    In Canada, each province sets it own rules and while a tiny bit more liberalized than the US, pretty much the same general rules as the Americans.
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    Apr 9, 2006, 05:19 AM
    Yes I have a lot of relitives that decided not to move to the colonies and stayed in Canada. I almost moved there some years ago, but immigration was going to be an issue, citizenship and all of that, so I decided not to.

    I like the health care program in general, everything can be improved but it is a better start than what the US has

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