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Jun 16, 2006, 12:28 AM
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Fake Manned Moon Landing?
There is a group of people who claim that the United States faked the manned moon landing. They point to anomalies in the photographs as well as the radiation hazard of the trip and landing on te moon itself. Would like to hear opinions on this. Thanks!
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Uber Member
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Jun 16, 2006, 04:16 AM
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Lol, you mean those folks are still out there? I remember Capricorn One, a movie based on that premise.
Folks who claim this just don't have a leg to stand on.
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Ultra Member
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Jun 16, 2006, 04:23 AM
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I heard it was fake too.
All an act.
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Senior Member
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Jun 16, 2006, 06:57 AM
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Cough,cough.I saw Buzz Aldrin in Birmingham,UK many years ago,talking about space exploration.That very question came up.The great man just laughed,and said going to the moon was awe-inspiring.There was even a tiny sample of moon rock,on display at the local science museum.I've never seen so much security.Did it happen? Get a grip. :D
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Expert
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Jun 16, 2006, 07:08 AM
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With today's technology anything is possible as for faking the lunar landing I seriously doubt it. Why there is no mickey 'd's on the moon is more of a mystery!
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Ultra Member
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Jun 16, 2006, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by talaniman
With todays technology anything is possible as for faking the lunar landing I seriously doubt it. Why there is no mickey 'd's on the moon is more of a mystery!
Couldn't spread it.. but that's a great comment I love it :)
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Junior Member
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Jun 16, 2006, 06:32 PM
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AAAAhhhhh -hah!!
They may have gone to the moon but...
They didn't find the Clangers!! :D tweeet tweeeet!!
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I regard all beings mostly by their consciousness and little else
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Jun 16, 2006, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonegy
AAAAhhhhh -hah !!!!!
They may have gone to the moon but.....................
they didn't find the Clangers !!!!! :D tweeet tweeeet !!!
No they found Alice Kramden from the Honeymooners instead!! :D
(now I really date myself and those who don't get it, ask Tom LOL)
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Eternal Plumber
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Jun 17, 2006, 05:53 AM
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One a these days Alice! One of these days! POW!! All da way to da moon Alice! All da way to da moon!
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Expert
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Jun 17, 2006, 05:39 PM
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Just a question, we were there, we left junk laying all around, with our telescopes of today, can we not see some of this stuff laying there ?
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Uber Member
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Jun 18, 2006, 05:12 PM
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That's a very good question Father. I think the issue is twofold: the comparatively small size of the man-made objects and the interference caused by the layers of atmosphere from the earthbound viewer. More here.
We probably could see, with a telescope , objects on the moon at a resolution of a few hundred meters but not the LEM or other objects that are under 5 meters in length.
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Expert
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Jun 18, 2006, 05:16 PM
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I was watching a TV show last week that said we can now measure the exact distance between the earth and the moon by sending a signal to the moon and it bounces back from some panel we left up there.
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Uber Member
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Jun 18, 2006, 05:22 PM
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Yep, they left a laser reflector last time there. Just a metter of sending a pulse up to the reflector and counting the amount of time it takes for the round trip - simple math after that.
Here's a pic of the reflector.
http://www.abc.net.au/science/moon/i...eo/alaser2.jpg
"Then, Aldrin set up a laser reflector - a cluster of tiny prisms designed to reflect light from laser beams directed onto it from Earth. The time taken for a laser pulse to travel there and back is used to measure the moon's distance from the Earth. It's accurate to the nearest 2 centimetres. And we now know that the moon is actually pulling away from us very slowly."
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Jul 5, 2006, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Krs
I heard it was fake too.
All an act.
Here is an humorous link.
Fake moon landings
http://av.rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9ibyKu...n_landings.htm
Excerpt:
Lessons of the 'Fake Moon Flight' Myth
James Oberg
Depending on the opinion polls, there's a core of Apollo moon flight disbelievers within the United States--perhaps 10 percent of the population, and up to twice as large in specific demographic groups. Overseas the results are similar, fanned by local attitudes toward the U.S. in general and technology in particular. Some religious fundamentalists--Hare Krishna cultists and some extreme Islamic mullahs, for example--declare the theological impossibility of human trips to other worlds in space
http://www.csicop.org/si/2003-03/commentary.html
Were the 1969 moon landings faked?
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/3543/moonfake.htm
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Senior Member
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Jul 6, 2006, 02:47 PM
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I don't believe the moon landings were faked. With the number of people involved, the engineering required, the technology that was developed... I have no doubts that the moon landings were very real.
I do however wonder how much of what was discovered was not disclosed to the public, and why there have been no further missions to the moon or beyond. Call me crazy, but I believe some very scary things were discovered during those missions. Things that prompted the decision not to go back.
China is planning a moon mission in 2007 ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4146226.stm)...
I can't help but wonder what will come of it.
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Jul 6, 2006, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by phillysteakandcheese
I don't believe the moon landings were faked. With the number of people involved, the engineering required, the technology that was developed... I have no doubts that the moon landings were very real.
I do however wonder how much of what was discovered was not disclosed to the public, and why there have been no futher missions to the moon or beyond. Call me crazy, but I believe some very scary things were discovered during those missions. Things that prompted the decision not to go back.
China is planning a moon mission in 2007 ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4146226.stm) ...
I can't help but wonder what will come of it.
Can you give an example or two of those very scary things?
Not specifics but so that we can more or less figure out what it is that they might have been afraid of.
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Uber Member
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Jul 6, 2006, 10:11 PM
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I am curious as well, what scary things could they have found? What is your ideas Philly?
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Junior Member
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Jul 7, 2006, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by phillysteakandcheese
I don't believe the moon landings were faked. With the number of people involved, the engineering required, the technology that was developed... I have no doubts that the moon landings were very real.
I do however wonder how much of what was discovered was not disclosed to the public, and why there have been no futher missions to the moon or beyond. Call me crazy, but I believe some very scary things were discovered during those missions. Things that prompted the decision not to go back.
China is planning a moon mission in 2007 ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4146226.stm) ...
I can't help but wonder what will come of it.
It's official then...
They did find the "C L A N G E R S"
Just shows you doesn't it. You just cannot trust those children's TV programs.
I thought those "C L A N G E R S" were quite sweet and cuddly - never realised there was anything sinister about them. :eek:
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Senior Member
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Jul 7, 2006, 09:22 AM
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Many sources report astronauts seeing UFO's during their missions. This page has an interesting summary of several of them. The story of Neil Armstrong seeing spaceships “parked” on the moon particularly interests me, and there are some pretty wild write-ups about this stuff.
These things are entertaining and fun to read, but they have no real credibility.
However – It has been more than 30 years since man has been to the moon. 30 years? I know the moon is just a big rock, but I would have thought that:
- There must be geologists and other scientists interested in studying the moon's composition and materials.
- There must be industries where low gravity mining and manufacturing is really useful.
- There must be military applications for having equipment or facilities on the moon.
- The low gravity environment of the moon would make it an excellent staging area for launching other spacecraft out into the solar system.
I think none of these things have happened because we didn't get there first. I think the moon was already in use by some other civilization, and that real-world fact was extremely scary to many people.
If you think back to what society was like in the 60's and 70's, is it any wonder that this information was immediately suppressed? It's easy to follow how the same policies carried on through the years.
If humans can't get along with each other, how can we cope with an alien species that can boast "we've been watching you since you lived in caves"?
Okay - that quote is from Space: Above and Beyond, but it resonates a point.
Racism is ugly and embarassing now, how bad could it get if we add xenophobia involving life not of this world...
So there - now you know... ;)
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Jul 8, 2006, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by phillysteakandcheese
Many sources report astronauts seeing UFO's during their missions. This page has an interesting summary of several of them. The story of Neil Armstrong seeing spaceships “parked” on the moon particularly interests me, and there are some pretty wild write-ups about this stuff.
These things are entertaining and fun to read, but they have no real credibility.
However – It has been more than 30 years since man has been to the moon. 30 years? I know the moon is just a big rock, but I would have thought that:
- There must be geologists and other scientists interested in studying the moon's composition and materials.
- There must be industries where low gravity mining and manufacturing is really useful.
- There must be military applications for having equipment or facilities on the moon.
- The low gravity environment of the moon would make it an excellent staging area for launching other spacecraft out into the solar system.
I think none of these things have happened because we didn't get there first. I think the moon was already in use by some other civilization, and that real-world fact was extremely scary to many people.
If you think back to what society was like in the 60's and 70's, is it any wonder that this information was immediately suppressed? It's easy to follow how the same policies carried on through the years.
If humans can't get along with each other, how can we cope with an alien species that can boast "we've been watching you since you lived in caves"?
Okay - that quote is from Space: Above and Beyond, but it resonates a point.
Racism is ugly and embarassing now, how bad could it get if we add xenophobia involving life not of this world...
So there - now you know... ;)
This is the first time I hear about Astronauts saying they saw UFOs parked on the moon and about being watched by aliens.
A moonbase is also suspected to exist on the dark side.
BTW
I just read that Armstrong did confirm that he did see UFOS on the moon.
Excerpt:
Alien Moon Base
By UFO Joe, InfoNet
A certain professor, who wished to remain anonymous, was engaged
In a discussion with Neil Armstrong during a NASA symposium.
Professor: What REALLY happened out there with Apollo 11?
Armstrong: It was incredible, of course we had always known
There was a possibility, the fact is, we were
Warned off!(by the Aliens). There was never any
Question then of a space station or a moon city.
Professor: How do you mean "warned off"?
Armstrong: I can't go into details, except to say that their
Ships were far superior to ours both in size and
Technology - Boy, were they big!. and menacing!
No, there is no question of a space station.
Professor: But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?
Armstrong: Naturally - NASA was committed at that time, and
Couldn't risk panic on Earth. But it really was a
Quick scoop and back again.
Armstrong confirmed that the story was true but refused to go
Into further detail, beyond admitting that the CIA was behind the
Cover-up.
http://av.rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9ibyKI..._moon_base.htm
Other Astronaut Sightings
http://www.anomalous-images.com/astroufo.html
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