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    #161

    Jan 21, 2020, 07:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    In the United States, which contains 8 percent of the world's forests, there are more trees than there were 100 years ago
    So Trump wants to plant a trillion more, to green america, and it doesn't matter that vegetation is recovering from exploitation, not the issue, therefore, your point is mote
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    #162

    Feb 4, 2020, 07:51 AM
    The fraud Democrats at their best . At least it feels good to think you are saving the planet .
    https://www.baltimoresun.com/marylan...6q4-story.html
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    #163

    Feb 4, 2020, 12:36 PM
    Or making big bucks, because not recycling is a stiff fine and those are repubs making those rules here.
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    #164

    Feb 4, 2020, 12:44 PM
    Baltimore ? Repubs making the rules ?
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    #165

    Feb 4, 2020, 01:15 PM
    You know I don't live in Baltimore Tom! Conservatives rule here. Everybody is a capitlist too, even the homeless. It's bash the dems day for conservatives eh? Any day that ends in Y!
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    #166

    Feb 4, 2020, 01:45 PM
    They should be taken out and bashed perhaps it will give them some sense
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    #167

    Feb 4, 2020, 07:07 PM
    Recycling is a farce: Greatly oversold as to its true benefits and greatly undersold as to it own collective environmental impact....but the problem is that we have more than a generation of people that have been "taught"/BRAINWASHED by our public school systems (which we fund)that RECYCLING is the savior of all mankind! Well, it isn't...far from it. The RECYCLING INDUSTRY is built upon lies.
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    #168

    Feb 4, 2020, 07:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Recycling is a farce: Greatly oversold as to its true benefits and greatly undersold as to it own collective environmental impact....but the problem is that we have more than a generation of people that have been "taught"/BRAINWASHED by our public school systems (which we fund)that RECYCLING is the savior of all mankind! Well, it isn't...far from it. The RECYCLING INDUSTRY is built upon lies.
    Well Vac the rubbish has to go somewhere, by volume "recycling" makes up 2/3 of my rubbish with plastic the main component. When you take out the paper, cardboard and metal, plastic is most of it. Who do we have to thank for this, the packaging industry, and aside from bottles most of it is unnecessary
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    #169

    Feb 4, 2020, 09:35 PM
    It's like any business, profit is the rule.
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    #170

    Feb 5, 2020, 03:37 PM
    Yes without profit there would be no business
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    #171

    Feb 5, 2020, 04:29 PM
    It's like any business, profit is the rule.
    Kind of hard to stay in business if you don't make a profit.
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    #172

    Feb 5, 2020, 07:42 PM
    Best thing we could do with used plastic is to burn it and capture the BTUs released. It makes no sense to recycle this trash. All garbage should be burned in boilers so heat recovery can be realized.
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    #173

    Feb 5, 2020, 08:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Best thing we could do with used plastic is to burn it and capture the BTUs released. It makes no sense to recycle this trash. All garbage should be burned in boilers so heat recovery can be realized.
    Ok so now we know for sure you are not on the side of the climate change fanatics, but plastic can be turned into oil and be re-refined into fuel so just to burn it is waste, it is like putting aluminium foil in the garbage, that stuff costs a lot of electricity to make. Some garbage is not pollution free so needs to be burned in high temperature furnaces, not just burned otherwise you get smog, never mind it's technical, and you have shown that you don't understand
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    Feb 6, 2020, 06:17 AM
    Technology doesn't matter enough if you can't cover costs of the operation. The trash buyer just ain't buying enough trash anymore so yeah it piles up somewhere. Even power plants are having a problem with waste management about what to do with waste it captures even with the new revenue stream of leasing it's network transmission lines.
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    #175

    Feb 6, 2020, 02:24 PM
    recycling is good and not even much of an inconvenience. Thunderstruck decided she wanted to trademark herself . Ahhh profits .Why not cash in championing a cause 'Doing well be doing"good" ' is the progressive way .

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/us/gr...rnd/index.html
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    #176

    Feb 6, 2020, 02:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    recycling is good and not even much of an inconvenience. Thunderstruck decided she wanted to trademark herself . Ahhh profits .Why not cash in championing a cause 'Doing well be doing"good" ' is the progressive way .

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/us/gr...rnd/index.html
    Well I'm thunderstruck at the thought Greta might be given a Nobel prize, what has she contributed "how dare you" to the debate? This child has been manipulated
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    #177

    Feb 6, 2020, 02:41 PM
    Not coloring inside the circle: Recycling is a farce: The jackarses in control of the RECYCLING INDUSTRY have wrapped themselves in the impenetrable cloak of ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY and think that will insulate them from any negative publicity (i.e. TRUTH!): I can assure your that the ENVIRONMENT is the lowest concern for these damned RECYCLE KINGPINS! They could give one damn about the ENVIRONMENT: They care a whole hell of a lot more for $$$s!

    Paraclete: The smoke must have blocked more than your nasal passages: You think that the U.S., the LARGEST EXPORTED OF OIL IN THE WORLD, should concern itself with retrieving OIL FROM PLASTIC WASTE? NOT HAPPENING! We would be better off burning the plastic in our power boilers and/or incinerators and be done with it!
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    #178

    Feb 6, 2020, 02:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post

    Paraclete: The smoke must have blocked more than your nasal passages: You think that the U.S., the LARGEST EXPORTED OF OIL IN THE WORLD, should concern itself with retrieving OIL FROM PLASTIC WASTE? NOT HAPPENING! We would be better off burning the plastic in our power boilers and/or incinerators and be done with it!
    Vac you want to stink up the place with more pollution, go ahead! Burning plastic gives renewables a new meaning. The US should become a responsible world citizen instead of this we will do it our way crap thinly disquised as make America great
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    #179

    Feb 6, 2020, 02:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    recycling is good and not even much of an inconvenience. Thunderstruck decided she wanted to trademark herself . Ahhh profits .Why not cash in championing a cause 'Doing well be doing"good" ' is the progressive way .

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/us/gr...rnd/index.html
    A capitalist put a bug in her ear obviously.
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    #180

    Feb 6, 2020, 02:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    A capitalist put a bug in her ear obviously.
    She is just another pawn in the endless AGW debate and she comes from a place where they do as vac suggests; turn rubbish into heat, Don't see her complaining about that. Vac should get on the front line and do some placard waving

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