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Dec 28, 2012, 11:24 AM
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Well what do you expect the dems to do when you guys act so crazy? The OMB thinks your ideas are crazy too! They have said so. Why don't you guys admit our ideas are workig despite the noise and obstructions from the right?
You guys have CREATED one crisis after another.
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Dec 28, 2012, 11:41 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
You guys have CREATED one crisis after another.
Still insisting on living in 1984, eh?
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Ultra Member
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Dec 28, 2012, 11:53 AM
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Still working in that spirit of compromise.
If it makes you happy ,I don't blame the President . He should've stayed in Hawaii . He did his job .He proposed a budget. The House passed a budget . The deadlock is the fault of the do nothing Senate.
Why don't you admit how fond you are of the Bush tax cuts ?
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Expert
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Dec 28, 2012, 12:23 PM
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My fondness isn't the problem, it's the rich guys fondness for MO" MONEY on top of what they have that breaks the capitalist business model and chokes circulation of a dollar. These are having global consequences that even rich guys are starting to feel.
Don't worry,wall street will holler soon, louder than you guys do and about a different issue than you are hollering about.
PS, nobody liked the budget you guys proposed, and that's why Romney lost. Like I said you guys say NO, but you can't stand when NO is said to you, like in the last election. If Obama can't have a mandate and he won ,then what logic gives you one? Stop patting yourselves on the back, those were the lousiest budget bills from the house in HISTORY.No amount of spin changes that.
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Dec 28, 2012, 01:06 PM
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At least they did something as opposed to NOTHING. For over 3 years - NOTHING.
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Expert
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Dec 28, 2012, 01:19 PM
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If that's what you want to call your right wing antics. Go ahead.
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Uber Member
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Dec 28, 2012, 01:34 PM
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Hello again:
The deadlock is the fault of the do nothing Senate.
That may or may NOT be true... But, the public thinks it's the Republicans fault. And, it's going to cost 'em.
I don't know why this is such a surprise. The polls reveal it. Oh, that's right. Polls that say ANYTHING negative about Republicans are NOT to be believed.
Excon
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Dec 28, 2012, 02:28 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again:
That may or may NOT be true... But, the public thinks it's the Republicans fault. And, it's gonna cost 'em.
I dunno why this is such a surprise. The polls reveal it. Oh, that's right. Polls that say ANYTHING negative about Republicans are NOT to be believed.
excon
Of course the polls reveal it, there is no adversarial media any longer, but for Fox they're Democrat lapdogs.
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Dec 29, 2012, 12:44 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
So, the ONLY one who's telling the truth is FOX News, huh?
Bwa, ha ha ha ha ha... Bwa he he he heeeeee.. Bwa ho hoho ho ho ho...
excon
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Ultra Member
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Dec 29, 2012, 03:58 AM
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Fox must offer balanced reporting both sides complain about them
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Uber Member
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Dec 29, 2012, 07:25 AM
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Hello again, clete:
I don't know... It looks like Steve thinks they're a paragon of virtue.
excon
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Ultra Member
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Dec 29, 2012, 09:09 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
So, the ONLY one who's telling the truth is FOX News, huh?
Bwa, ha ha ha ha ha... Bwa he he he heeeeee.. Bwa ho hoho ho ho ho........
excon
Not at all what I said. Which part of the lamestream media beyond Jake Tapper has actually held Obama and the Dems accountable?
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Uber Member
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Dec 29, 2012, 09:16 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
Which part of the lamestream media beyond Jake Tapper has actually held Obama and the Dems accountable?
Glenn Greenwald does. He appears on "lamestream media" regularly. Others do too. Maybe if you turned the dial OFF Fox News once in a while, you'd KNOW that.
Excon
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Ultra Member
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Dec 29, 2012, 09:22 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Glenn Greenwald does. He appears on "lamestream media" regularly. Others do too. Maybe if you turned the dial OFF Fox News once in a while, you'd KNOW that.
excon
So you had to go to a British paper to find someone, eh?
Of course you know the vast majority of the sources I cite are anyone but Fox so you can dispense with the straw man.
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Uber Member
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Dec 29, 2012, 09:34 AM
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Hello again, Steve:
Couple things... You asked about lamestream media, and I showed one amongst many. I read him regularly. He's American and used to write for Salon. Maybe they're paying him more money. I don't know and I don't care.. He WRITES from the same office CRITICIZING the president and the Democrats. Kind of like I do.. You've heard of the interweb, haven't you?
excon
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Ultra Member
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Dec 29, 2012, 09:42 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Couple things... You asked about lamestream media, and I showed one amongst many. I read him regularly. He's American and used to write for Salon. Maybe they're paying him more money. I dunno and I don't care.. He WRITES from the same office CRITICIZING the president and the Democrats. Kinda like I do.. You've heard of the interweb, haven't you?
excon
And how many average Americans get their news via The Guardian and not ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, HNN, NY Times, etc. I think he and Fox are way outnumbered.
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Expert
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Dec 29, 2012, 09:44 AM
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The whole idea of a lamestream media is a straw man argument that the right pushes to decry those they disagree with. Its an excuse not to believe there are other sides of the story. I think conservatives are greatly outnumbered and the farther right the less the numbers.
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Ultra Member
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Dec 29, 2012, 12:35 PM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
The whole idea of a lamestream media is a straw man argument that the right pushes to decry those they disagree with. Its an excuse not to believe there are other sides of the story. I think conservatives are greatly outnumbered and the farther right the less the numbers.
Speaking of staw men...
I look at facts and they are on my side.
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Ultra Member
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Dec 29, 2012, 01:36 PM
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I think I'm falling
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Senior Member
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Dec 30, 2012, 07:01 PM
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Is there anything that Obama can do without congress if they can't reach a deal? There should be some provision for the president to act alone in an emergency when congress is being totally unreasonable.
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