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  • Romney

    10 50.00%
  • Obama

    10 50.00%
  • Romney is in denial

    5 25.00%
  • Obama is a communist

    3 15.00%
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    #161

    Oct 9, 2012, 11:17 AM
    PBS has a $475 million dollar budget, only 15% of which comes from the taxpayers .Sesame Workshop (the organization behind Sesame Street) is raking in an average of over $50 million per year in merchandizing . Cut the public funding immediately .
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    #162

    Oct 9, 2012, 11:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    PBS has a $475 million dollar budget, only 15% of which comes from the taxpayers .Sesame Workshop (the organization behind Sesame Street) is raking in an average of over $50 million per year in merchandizing . Cut the public funding immediately .
    With that thinking then why do the oil companies get subsidies?
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    #163

    Oct 9, 2012, 11:51 AM
    They shouldn't and wouldn't if I ran things .
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    #164

    Oct 9, 2012, 12:11 PM
    The oil company subsidies are millions upon millions more then PBS gets - that's where you should focus you efforts.
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    #165

    Oct 9, 2012, 01:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The oil company subsidies are millions upon millions more then PBS gets - that's where you should focus you efforts.
    Neither should all the failing "green" companies.
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    #166

    Oct 9, 2012, 01:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Neither should all the failing "green" companies.
    Yea but that's new, the oil subsidies have been going on for decades. How come you guys haven't had any success getting those stopped?
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    #167

    Oct 9, 2012, 01:28 PM
    Pigs at the trough, there is a certain mentality in politics where if you feed the pigs at the trough all this lovely green stuff flows back to you
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    #168

    Oct 9, 2012, 02:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Yea but that's new, the oil subsidies have been going on for decades. How come you guys haven't had any success getting those stopped?
    Yea but that's new? And that makes it better how? FYI, Romney said Exxon's tax breaks are "on the table". We'll see.
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    #169

    Oct 9, 2012, 02:20 PM
    He also said that 47% of the country were lazy losers who will never take responsibility because they pay no taxes. My 87 year old mom is still pissed. Through her pill cutters away but don't tell on me!
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    #170

    Oct 9, 2012, 02:40 PM
    I believe he more than displayed his compassion at the debate. He destroyed Team O's narrative carefully crafted narrative. Team O's newest strategy fits right in with the Nickelodeon/Sesame Street offensive, "nana nana boo boo, Romney's a lying poo poo!"
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    #171

    Oct 9, 2012, 02:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I believe he more than displayed his compassion at the debate.
    What compassion? He doesn't know what that is.
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    #172

    Oct 9, 2012, 02:50 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Team O's newest strategy fits right in with the Nickelodeon/Sesame Street offensive, "nana nana boo boo, Romney's a lying poo poo!"
    Hey that's the same strategy used here too!
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And yet Obama continues to lie
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    #173

    Oct 9, 2012, 02:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Hey that's the same strategy used here too!
    One major difference, the element of truth is on my side.
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    #174

    Oct 9, 2012, 02:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    One major difference, the element of truth is on my side.
    Governor Romney hasn't yet told us what his truth is.
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    #175

    Oct 9, 2012, 03:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    One major difference, the element of truth is on my side.
    That's what all the unrepentant liars say!
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    #176

    Oct 9, 2012, 03:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The oil company subsidies are millions upon millions more then PBS gets - that's where you should focus you efforts.
    What part of my response did you not understand ? But let me put this into perspective .Renewable energy companies have received 1000 times the subsidies that oil companies do, per kilowatt-hour of energy produced.So where is the dollar better spent ?
    Again... I oppose subsidies to private industry . It is a liberal economic 'pick winners and losers concept that runs against my free market economy ideas .
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    #177

    Oct 9, 2012, 04:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Again... I oppose subsidies to private industry . It is a liberal economic 'pick winners and losers concept that runs against my free market economy ideas .
    Unfortunately that's never going to happen for either party as long as their pockets are lined with corporate donor money.
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    #178

    Oct 9, 2012, 06:44 PM
    Federally Funded Green Energy Projects ? Not Such A Failure After All - Gas 2

    It is easy to say something has failed but what does failed mean? Well, if charted goals were set and not met than that would be a failure. Certainly if a business closed or filed for bankruptcy that would also be a failure. However, when Republicans say that Obama's clean energy campaign has failed they tend to site failed or struggling business and not the industry itself. Yes, some budding green businesses took federal loans and ended up closing shop. But for the few that failed many more prospered and overall the green energy industry is doing well on not only in America but on a global scale as well.

    You do know the green industry goes beyond just solar panels don't you and the failure rate of green companies is 5% in the US.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/06/opinio...obs/index.html
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    #179

    Oct 9, 2012, 07:10 PM
    Good article Tal should be more of Romney's facts get checked along with his arithmetic
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    #180

    Oct 9, 2012, 07:19 PM
    When you can win a debate with energy and style(?), but the facts are NON existent, that's truly winning ugly, but some don't care about facts. But the FACTS are coming out.

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