[Wondergirl]

I don't live in Arkansas. So how is my point not valid?

So why are your feathers ruffled over spending in Arkansas?

Most of the states are still sitting on that stimulus money or have spend it to pay bills (or line pockets). President Obama's mistake was to hand out the stimulus money with no parameters. He trusted the states and banks to do the right thing.

[speechlesstx]

How do you know they haven't planned to improve the roads? Being in a flood plain its always being worked on to my memory. That was years before the stimilus was even discussed.

Why is there any need for a rest stop between Memphis and West Memphis, articularly when the road is crumbling. It's been patched so many times it looks like a quilt. The priority is obvious. But hey, Obama got another sign up showing all he's done for America.

[speechlesstx]

So why are your feathers ruffled over spending in Arkansas?

a) I don't have any feathers to ruffle, it's an example of misplaced priorities.

B Federal dollars, that comes from me and you.

[Wondergirl]

a) I don't have any feathers to ruffle, it's an example of misplaced priorities.

b Federal dollars, that comes from me and you.

Misspent by the state.

[speechlesstx]

Misspent by the state.

And that makes it all better how?

[Wondergirl]

And that makes it all better how?

No one can blame President Obama.

[speechlesstx]

No one can blame President Obama.

He takes credit and wants to do it again so he deserves to share the blame.

[Wondergirl]

He takes credit and wants to do it again so he deserves to share the blame.

... as do we for not holding the states and banks accountable.

[talaniman]

You don't have enough facts for blame or credit because you have not given any to details of why the road is bad, for how long, or if they plan on doing anything about it.

[speechlesstx]

You don't have enough facts for blame or credit because you have not given any to details of why the road is bad, for how long, or if they plan on doing anything about it.

You are the one that keeps hollering about fixing roads and such, I'm just pointing out why "stimulus" is a waste.

[talaniman]

Which parts? The tax cuts? The building programs? Or the money to keep teachers and fire fighters, and police?

It gave states two years to make some adjustments. What, they should have been allowed to nose dive when the finances crashed or what?

Where would the states be without it? Funny how you think states don't rate government help during a crisis, but all those republicans hollering the stimulus was a failure have taken credit for the money their state got, and asked for more of it, including Paul Ryan, and the Texas state legislature. Oklahoma benefited greatly too, as I pointed out already.

Oh that's right, we should have let the states fall flat on their faces!! You still have your tax break don't you? Give it back like you told that rich guy to.

[TUT317]

a) I don't have any feathers to ruffle, it's an example of misplaced priorities.

b Federal dollars, that comes from me and you.

I would think that talking about misplaced priorities and stimulus money being wasted on the wrong projects supports the idea that the state is responsible. This is provided that the state is responsible for deciding on where the money is to be spent.

It would still be a misplaced priority on the part of the state regardless of where the money came from.


Tut

[speechlesstx]

Now I don't know all the specifics of the stimulus, but typically the feds/congress grant money for projects on request... quite often pork. The state says "we want a rest area" and the feds say yes or no.

Both are responsible. The state for wanting something unnecessary while infrastructure crumbles, the feds for going along with it. We need the road, the private sector has taken care of the restrooms... they often even advertise them so you'll know where they are. Stop in, maybe spend a few bucks and contribute to the economy while providing government revenue to fix the road. Or waste on more pork projects.

[paraclete]

Now I don't know all the specifics of the stimulus, but typically the feds/congress grant money for projects on request...quite often pork. The state says "we want a rest area" and the feds say yes or no.

Both are responsible. The state for wanting something unnecessary while infrastructure crumbles, the feds for going along with it. We need the road, the private sector has taken care of the restrooms...they often even advertise them so you'll know where they are. Stop in, maybe spend a few bucks and contribute to the economy while providing government revenue to fix the road. Or waste on more pork projects.

From your explanation seems like something is a little mixed up, federal government getting down and dirty in the detail of local projects. You know what I think is the problem you have too many representatives of the people, too many congress men who have to satisfy someone that they have done something which can be tangibly measured at a local level, all the while competing with the state and local governments for attention. What you need to do is fatten the pig before cutting up the pork and I would say that is what stimilus is; a nice fat pig being carved up at the BBQ. Build some more highways to nowhere, bridge some ravines, not much original thinking there, but it does get people working, where just filling in the potholes is so unexciting

[speechlesstx]

As I mentioned in another thread last week, some black congresswomen had a hissy fit over McCain, Graham - and the lovely Kelly Ayotte - picking on poor Susan Rice and objecting to the idea of her as Secretary of State. Here we go again, in spite of zero evidence Republicans just don't like black people or something...

RICHARD WOLFFE: I think it's Susan Rice. There is the question about John Kerry. But I think now that John McCain has sunk his teeth in, he's made it about presidential authority, and, frankly, it's outrageous that there is this witch hunt going on the right about these people of color, let's face it, around this president. Eric Holder, Valerie Jarrett, now Susan Rice. Before it was Van Jones. This is not about who is hawkish in the same way John McCain is about foreign policy because if you look at Iran and Libya, Susan Rice checks those boxes. This is a personal vendetta. It's about presidential authority.

MATTHEWS: So, you think McCain is being-- McCain and people like Lindsey Graham, McCain, who had his own daughter attacked, was accused of having an illegitimate child when, in fact, he adopted a young girl from South Asia. You're saying that McCain's being driven by racial prejudice here?

WOLFFE: There is no other way to look at this because look at her foreign policy and by the way, Look at what John McCain said about Condi Rice's nomination. We're running this story on the front page of the MSNBC website right now. Back then– four years-- eight years ago, John McCain said the people -- the Democrats who were questioning Condi Rice's credentials they were engaged with bitter innocence, they needed to move on. Why has he changed his tune? What is it about Susan Rice? And the answer is there aren't any good foreign policy explanations for it.

If she was duped into being the face of the administration's Benghazi lie what does that say about her competence?

If she went out and lied knowingly what does that say about her character?

And by the way, she seems to have had more than a few issues looking the other way from atrocities committed in Africa.

Susan Rice: Benghazi May Be Least of Her Problems

Maybe those are some foreign policy issues worth examining Mr. Wolffe.

P.S. Did you know the vast majority of blacks refused to vote for the white guy? That can't be because they all agree with Obama's policies can it?

[tomder55]

Add to that the Democrat Congressional campaign made it a point to target Republican minority and women candidates . I regret the losses ,especially the seats lost by Nan Heyworth and Alan West.

[tomder55]

Susan Rice's nomination (if it's even advanced at this point) is DOA . From what I've heard ,she stepped on lots of folks on her way up the ladder... including giving the one finger salute to Richard Holbrooke... including deserting the Clintoon camp and making less than complimentary comments on Evita's foreign policy positions ;and mocking McCain during one of his trips to Iraq. She pissed off the Europeans by being openly critical of the sanctions against Iran. She has openly and aggressively confronted the Russians over their position over Syria .The Russians are openly campaigning for JF Kerry to be the new Sec State .

This flap over Benghazi is the cherry on top . She knows that she gave false info on the attack ;and still clings to the narrative. She should be hauled into Congress and made to give testimony under oath to determine if she knowingly lied ;or was fed a false narrative.

[speechlesstx]

add to that the the Democrat Congressional campaign made it a point to target Republican minority and women candidates . I regret the losses ,especially the seats lost by Nan Heyworth and Alan West.

Yep, that's how much they really think of minorities and women, they'd rather have two white guys than Heyworth and West.

This racist narrative is just beginning, Rep. James Clyburn criticized a letter that 97 House Republicans sent urging Obama not to appoint Rice as being loaded with dog whistles.

Give it a rest people, I'm about ready to shove your race cards down your throat.

[tomder55]

It will work too. The President set up a scenario where he now has no choice but to advance her nomination ;and ANYONE who opposes it for any reason will be attacked for being racist and waging war on women ;even if there are real questions about her suitability for the position of Sec State.

[speechlesstx]

And once again the American people will be worse off for it.