[speechlesstx]

Hello again,

Look, the Goricle used a poor choice of words. He's talking about a coming together at the grass roots exactly like the tea party did. He's not calling for revolution any more than the tea party did... Of course they DID carry guns, and they DID threaten to use 'em.

What, one guy had a gun and the media tried to portray him - a black man - as a racist.

[NeedKarma]

Seeing as how I didn't threaten anyone but merely offered a quote

So what's the message you want to send using the quote ""The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."?

[speechlesstx]

So what's the message you want to send using the quote ""The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."?

I'm not sending any message other than I know the quote ex was fumbling for. Geez, read the context before taking potshots at people.

[NeedKarma]

You are correct. My apologies.

[speechlesstx]

Accepted, thank you.

[talaniman]

The right wing won't be happy until they have the oligarchy the want.

[speechlesstx]

The right wing won't be happy until they have the oligarchy the want.

LOL, and ex calls Obama "Bush on steroids." He loves those signing statements, he's turning our health care over to an unaccountable committee, his EPA is drunk with power, he has yet to get Congress' approval to carry out his mission in Libya and on and on. Even Robert Byrd criticized his power grabs with all the unaccountable czars in his administration.

The right on the other hand, wants the balance of power to be restored to its rightful place, with the people and the states and away from judicial activism. Since you guys like the term you can call it a "balanced approach" to government, but not an oligarchy.

[NeedKarma]

The right on the other hand, wants the balance of power to be restored to its rightful place, with the people

You are completely deluding yourself if you think that will EVER happen. It makes for cute talking points though.

[speechlesstx]

You are completely deluding yourself if you think that will EVER happen. It makes for cute talking points though.

MLK had a dream, can't we? It's not a "cute talking point," and it's certainly not a wish for an oligarchy.

[NeedKarma]

Fighting against black oppression was easier than wrangling the control of your government away from the corporations. The first instance was achievable because men saw their transgressions against their fellow man, in this instance the corporation care very little about their fellow man, unless he's a boardroom member... and even then...
Remember it is the right that set up the TSA, spied on its own citizens, etc. I don't see any of that changing any time soon.

[speechlesstx]

Uh, the act that created the TSA was sponsored by a Republican in the House, Don Young, and a Democrat in the Senate, Fritz Hollings.

[NeedKarma]

Ok, that makes it all better I guess.

[speechlesstx]

Ok, that makes it all better I guess.

No, it makes it true.

[talaniman]

Oh come on Steve, the right is scaring the heck out of the republican party, and we all know Rush, Sarah, Glen, and Grover ARE the right. To them, any government is bad, and rich people rule. (They are rich too, you know) Too bad the Oligarchs don't give a darn about you, the right, or the TEA party, but you will find that out for yourself, as your fellow unemployed tea partakers have already.

Their ideology is money, THEIR money, and very cheap labor. And MORE money. Yeah I listen to what they have been ranting about too!

[speechlesstx]

Their ideology is money, THEIR money, and very cheap labor. And MORE money. Yeah I listen to what they have been ranting about too!

I guess you missed the part where Obama is good with helping Soros get richer, that 7 of the top 10 wealthiest in Congress are Democrats, that Al Gore is making a killing on his environmental garbage. Don't talk to me about greedy without including Democrats.

[talaniman]

Greed has nothing to do with titles, nor ideology. You seem to think it does, I don't.

[speechlesstx]

Nope, I just don't see you single out greedy, rich liberals like you do conservatives.

[speechlesstx]

Unions appear to be doubling down on the new civility. A non-union electrical shop owner in Lambertville, MI who is no stranger to union harassment and violence, was shot a couple of nights ago.

King Electrical Services owner John King was shot by a person who appears to be from one of the many unions who have targeted his workers, Toledo News Channel 11 WTOL reports. King is the largest non-union electrical contractor company in the area of southeastern Michigan near the Ohio border.

He has a long history of being on the receiving end of union-related violence, and this case doesn't appear to be any different. Before shooting him, the gunman etched the word “SCAB” into the side of King's SUV.

The altercation started when King woke up late last Wednesday to find someone in his driveway. He described the intruder as a “silhouette figure” because he didn't see the person clearly enough to offer a description. The individual was attempting to vandalize his SUV. When King went outside his Lambertville, Mich. home to confront the person, the vandal shot him in the arm.

Also, union leaders in the Verizon strike in NY have called on members to "torture" non-union workers since it's "open season" on them.

"It is open season. Follow them safely, but when you get to a location, torture them. Torture them with chants and noise. Be so loud that they can't concentrate and wish they never got out of bed," he said on the recording. Calabrese also said Verizon doesn't want a fair deal, but instead wants to break the union. "Understand brothers and sisters, we can never let these [expletive] piece of [expletive] pigs break us."

God bless unions.

[NeedKarma]

They represent all the unions in the world? I didn't know! :rolleyes:
What their crazy chants and loud noises.

[speechlesstx]

They represent all the unions in the world? I didn't know! :rolleyes:

I forget, without extreme specificity you misinterpret everything. No one implied these two incidents represented all the unions in the world, just American unions taking after the bully-in-chief.

• “Our job basically is to keep the boot on the neck of British Petroleum” -Barack Obama
  
• “They bring a knife…we bring a gun” -Barack Obama
  
• "Republican victory would mean “hand To hand combat” -Barack Obama
  
• “Argue with neighbors, get in their faces!” -Barack Obama
  
• “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!” -Barack Obama
  
• “Hit back twice as hard.” -Barack Obama
  
• “We talk to these folks… so I know whose a$$ to kick“ -Barack Obama
  
• "We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends..." -Barack Obama