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    #141

    Jan 28, 2019, 09:20 PM
    At worst it changes the subjest
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    #142

    Jan 29, 2019, 07:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Where did you get that from? And if you link an article, please make it an accurate and pertinent one.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier

    In October 2015, Fusion GPS was contracted by conservative political website The Washington Free Beaconto provide political opposition research against Trump. In April 2016, attorney Marc Elias
    separately hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump on behalf of Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC. The Free Beacon stopped its backing when Trump became the presumptive Republican Party presidential nominee.[2] In June 2016, Fusion GPS subcontracted Steele's firm to compile the dossier. His instructions were to seek answers to why Trump would "repeatedly seek to do deals in a notoriously corrupt police state
    ".[9]
    Clinton campaign officials were reportedly unaware that Fusion GPS had subcontracted Steele, and he was not told that the Clinton campaign was the recipient of his research.
    [10][11]
    Following Trump's election as president, funding from Clinton and the DNC ceased, but Steele continued his research and was reportedly paid directly by Fusion GPS co-founder
    Glenn R. Simpson.[12] The completed dossier was then handed to British and American intelligence services.[13]
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    #143

    Jan 29, 2019, 08:04 AM
    In April 2016, attorney Marc Elias separately hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump on behalf of
    Hillary Clinton's campaign and the
    DNC
    So rather clearly the Clinton campaign's attempt to smear Trump was a completely separate undertaking not related to anything the conservative political website The Washington Free Beacon did. So your own article shows that when you said, "didn't conservatives pay to get that dossier started against the dufus before the HC picked it up?", you were simply not correct. One had nothing to do with the other. Also, your article stated the WFB "contacted" Fusion GPS, but nothing was said about contracting with them or paying them, so that also does not support your allegation.

    I often wonder how carefully you read your own material.
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    #144

    Jan 29, 2019, 09:41 AM
    My statement is accurate as posted and what difference does it make? Your nitpicking AGAIN.
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    Jan 29, 2019, 10:42 AM
    My statement is accurate as posted and what difference does it make? Your nitpicking AGAIN.
    Depends. If what you were saying was that there was a largely inconsequential contact by a conservative newspaper with Fusion GPS that amounted basically to nothing, followed by an enormous and completely unrelated (to the conservative contact) investigation funded by the dems using FGPS, then I would agree with you. That is certainly what the Wiki article reported.
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    #146

    Feb 3, 2019, 03:52 PM
    I agree the contact would be unrelated to both sides. That was obvious. FGPS must not be that bad if both sides turned to them. According to Wiki,

    Fusion GPS is a commercial research and strategic intelligence firm based in Washington, D.C. The company conducts open-source investigations and provides research and strategic advice for businesses, law firms and investors, as well as for political inquiries, such as opposition research. The "GPS" initialism is derived from "Global research, Political analysis, Strategic insight".



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