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    Aug 1, 2011, 02:55 PM
    It's official, the new tone in the new era of civility is... Republicans are terrorists.

    Vice President Joe Biden joined House Democrats in lashing tea party Republicans Monday, accusing them of having “acted like terrorists” in the fight over raising the nation’s debt limit.

    Biden was agreeing with a line of argument made by Rep. Mike Doyle (D-Pa.) at a two-hour, closed-door Democratic Caucus meeting.

    “We have negotiated with terrorists,” an angry Doyle said, according to sources in the room. “This small group of terrorists have made it impossible to spend any money.”

    Biden, driven by his Democratic allies’ misgivings about the debt-limit deal, responded: “They have acted like terrorists,” according to several sources in the room.

    Biden’s office declined to comment about what the vice president said inside the closed-door session.

    Earlier in the day, Biden told Senate Democrats that Republican leaders have “guns to their heads” in trying to negotiate deals.
    A question for Mr Doyle is, just how much money "any money"? What are we going to spend in the next 10 years, $40 trillion? "Guns to their heads" Mr. Vice President? Really?

    I thought you Democrats were supposed to be the adults in the room but it turns out you're just mean, hate-filled, whiny sore-losers.
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    Aug 1, 2011, 03:34 PM

    Get over it, that what you told me to do.
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    #143

    Aug 1, 2011, 09:25 PM
    I wouldn't call you a terrorist, tal. I find that inexcusably intolerant, undignified, peurile behavior from our elected officials, especially the VP.
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    #144

    Aug 2, 2011, 05:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I thought you Democrats were supposed to be the adults in the room but it turns out you're just mean, hate-filled, whiny sore-losers.
    Hello again, Steve:

    Whoa, podner... You paint with a broad brush... Do you want me to find some despicable Republican and call you a hater because of what HE says?? I can, you know.

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    Aug 2, 2011, 06:23 AM
    Well, I can narrow it down. For starters, Slaughter, Doyle, Pelosi, Biden, Reid, Rangel, Dan Pfeiffer, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Rep. Garamendi, Rachel Maddow, Tom Friedman, Steny Hoyer, Van Jones, Joe Klein...

    By the way, Biden's "guns to their heads" remark was particularly pathetic seeing as how Gabby Giffords was there for the vote.
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    Aug 2, 2011, 06:24 AM
    And P.S. I HATE the new site.
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    Aug 2, 2011, 06:28 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Slaughter, Doyle, Pelosi, Biden, Reid, Rangel, Dan Pfeiffer, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Rep. Garamendi, Rachel Maddow, Tom Friedman, Steny Hoyer, Van Jones, Joe Klein...
    Hello again, Steve:

    Those bastards!

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    #148

    Aug 2, 2011, 08:33 AM
    Yes, it's definitely the official leftist talking point.

    Tea Party’s War on America
    By JOE NOCERA
    Published: August 1, 2011

    You know what they say: Never negotiate with terrorists. It only encourages them.

    These last few months, much of the country has watched in horror as the Tea Party Republicans have waged jihad on the American people.
    Funny, but you can't say anything about Islamic terrorist waging jihad in their effort to subject the whole world to Islam, but it's suddenly cool to call conservatives terrorists waging jihad on America for trying rescue us from Washington's inability to stop spending trillions we don't have. I'm waiting for some liberal somewhere to stand up and say enough of this violent, irresponsible rhetoric - especially considering Gabby Giffords was back yesterday.
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    Aug 2, 2011, 08:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Yes, it's definitely the official leftist talking point.
    Nah, you guys beat everyone to the punch:

    O?Reilly: Times Waging "Jihad" Against U.S. | Right Wing Watch
    But the truth is far more insidious. There is a far left press jihad going on in this country. That's the truth.
    Immigration Talk with a Mexican American: Breaking News: AZ sb1070 Racial Profiling Bill Author State Sen. Russell Pearce - RECALLED!!!!!
    Mired in various scandals, Pearce infamously accused President Obama of "waging jihad" on America.
    OPINION: Step up, take charge and lead the nation, Mr. President - TheHill.com
    Agencies like the FDA, EPA and the Labor Department have declared their own jihad against American entrepreneurs
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    Aug 2, 2011, 09:06 AM
    And which of those isolated incidents became the featured talking point of Republicans and the media? Even Krugman yesterday lamented Republicans' "bloody-mindedness." This is a vicious, choreographed assault on Americans, particularly inexcusable on the day of Giffords' return.

    To Hell With You People
    August 2, 2011 11:24 A.M.
    By Jonah Goldberg

    Look, I am past exhausted talking about liberal media bias. It’s real, we all know it, and people who deny it aren’t even fooling themselves. But some things just have to be pointed out. This morning I watched the first 15 minutes of the Today Show. I don’t particularly love or even like the program, but I find it useful to see what the producers think is the big news of the day. And sometimes Chuck Todd is on, and I like him. If I sound defensive about watching the show it’s only because I am.

    Anyway, the first ten minutes was about Gabby Giffords’ return to the House yesterday. I’m not sure it merited the full ten minutes or trumped the hard news that later followed, but it’s a great story and everyone is rooting for the lady, so I’m fine with it.

    But think about this for a second. The Giffords shooting sent the media elite in this country into a about of St. Vitus’s dance that would have warranted an army of exorcists in previous ages. Sarah Palin’s Facebook map was an evil totem that forced some guy to go on a shooting spree. The New York Times, the Washington Post, all three broadcast networks — particularly NBC whose senior foreign affairs correspondent, Andrea Mitchell, devotes, by my rough reckoning, ten times as much air time to whining about Sarah Palin as she does about anything having to do with foreign affairs — flooded the zone with “Have you no shame” finger wagging. A memo went forth demanding that everyone at MSNBC get their dresses over their heads about the evil “tone” from the right. Media Matters went into overdrive working the interns 24/7 to “prove” that Republicans deliberately foment violence with their evil targets on their evil congressional maps.

    Everyone “knew” the shooter was a tea partier. Except he wasn’t. He wasn’t even a conservative. He was a sick, demented, nutball. And it still didn’t matter! More bleating and caterwauling about the “tone” followed. More chin stroking and tut-tutting from Meet the Press roundtables and “very special segments” on the Today Show. More pizzas were ordered for the Media Matters galley slaves.

    Finally, president Obama, our national-healer gives a speech. It was a good speech. Indeed it was one of the first speeches in a long while that got anything like bipartisan support. Civility. New tone. No more martial metaphors. These were the takeaways.

    So flashforward to this week. Tom Friedman — who knows a bit about Hezbollah — calls the tea partiers the “Hezbollah faction” of the GOP bent on taking the country on a “suicide mission.” All over the place, conservative Republicans are “hostage takers” and “terrorists,” “terrorists” and “traitors.” They want to “end life as we know it on this planet,” says Nancy Pelosi. They are betraying the Founders, too. Chris Matthews all but signs up for the “Make an *** of Yourself” contest at the State Fair. Joe Nocera writes today that “the Tea Party Republicans can put aside their suicide vests.” Lord knows what Krugman and Olbermann have said.

    Then last night, on the very day Gabby Giffords heroically returns to cast her first vote since that tragic attack seven months ago, the vice president of the United States calls the Republican party a bunch of terrorists.

    No one cares. I hate the “if this were Bush” game so we’re in luck. Instead imagine if this was **** Cheney calling the Progressive Caucus (or whatever they’re called) a “bunch of terrorists” on the day Giffords returned to the Congress. Would the mainstream media notice or care? Would Meet the Press debate whether this raises “troubling questions” about the White House’s sensitivity? Would Andrea Mitchell find some way to blame Sarah Palin for **** Cheney’s viciousness? Would Keith Olbermann explode like a mouse subjected to the Ramone’s music in Rock and Roll High School? Something inside me hidden away shouts, “Hell yes they would!”

    The Today Show even had Debbie Wasserman Schultz on this morning for five minutes talking about Giffords. No one thought to ask her what she thought of Biden’s comments? It’s not like she’s the Democratic party’s national spokesperson or anything. Oh, wait. She is!

    Instead, after the full ten minutes on Giffords, we get an update about the debt-limit situation (which is supposedly an Armageddon-level issue) and Kelly O’Donnell basically carries water for Biden on the issue by completely muddying whether he said anything of the sort at all. (His office says, no, no the vice president didn’t call them terrorists, he just politely agreed with all the Democratic congressmen in the room that they “acted like terrorists.” Ah, this is a distinction a team of a million Jesuits working around the clock would have a hard time slicing).

    And yet you know the next time there’s the slightest, remotely exploitable tragedy or hint of violence, the same reporters, editors, producers and politicians are going to insist that blood was spilled because of the right wing’s rhetoric.

    Well, go to Hell. All of you.
    Well said, Jonah.
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    #151

    Aug 2, 2011, 09:17 AM
    It just continues. An editorial cartoon suggests Obama send in the Navy SEALS to take out the Tea Party.
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    Aug 2, 2011, 09:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I'm waiting for some liberal somewhere to stand up and say enough of this violent, irresponsible rhetoric
    Hello again, Steve:

    Those irresponsible bastards..

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    #153

    Aug 2, 2011, 09:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    This is a vicious, choreographed assault on Americans



    It's so sad that you fail to see the irony.
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    Aug 2, 2011, 10:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    It's so sad that you fail to see the irony.
    Look who's talking.
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    #155

    Aug 4, 2011, 08:22 AM
    The Goracle has taken to the air n his own network and called for an American version of the Arab-spring.

    Ever since CNBC’s Rick Santelli inspired the Tea Party movement’s creation in early 2009, the left has been looking for a similar spark on their own side. The earliest liberal alternative, the so-called Coffee Party, was a flop. But former Vice President Al Gore insists such a movement still needs to be invented.

    On Tuesday’s “Countdown with Keith Olbermann,” Gore made an appearance on his own network, Current TV, for the second night in a row. This time it was to respond to the debt ceiling legislation agreed upon by Congress and signed into law by President Barack Obama.

    Gore said the new law demands the “reinvigoration of democracy” or an “American spring,” to get the country back on what he thinks is the right course. (Al Gore: ‘Our system of government, itself, is in real trouble’)

    “[I] want to focus on one particular suggestion you had about using the wonderful digital tools that are newly available for the reinvigoration of democracy,” Gore said. “Now, they have been around for a while, but they are spreading far and wide and more people are getting involved. We need to have an American spring — you know, the Arab spring. The non-violent part of it isn’t finished yet, but we need to have an American spring, a kind of an American non-violent change where people on the grassroots get involved again. Not the, you know, not in the Tea Party-style.”

    Gore took his attack to favorite left-wing targets: the Fox News Channel, and David and Charles Koch.

    “There are people who are genuinely upset in the Tea Party,” Gore continued. “I understand that, but that movement was funded with seed money from right-wing billionaires, the Koch Brothers, and promoted on Fox News and turned into a stalking horse for this right-wing agenda that a lot of people have been trying to push on this country for a long time.”
    I take it he's either expecting the Tea Party to get violent or his "American spring" to get violent. Either way he's just more ridiculous every day. Richer, but more ridiculous.

    Speaking of the rich, I am always amused at these idiots complaining about the Koch brothers and Fox News. This coming from a movement that's been backed for years by George Soros and his wealthy buddies. I would call them hypocrites but I don't think they're smart enough to do anything but parrot whoever said it first.

    And all who think conservatives are extremists for wanting to "take back our country"? The slogan of the Arab-spring is "The people want to bring down the regime".
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    Aug 4, 2011, 08:34 AM

    We need to have an American spring
    Hello Steve:

    I couldn't agree with the Goracle more. What?? Didn't the Tea Party people say sh*t like the country needs a revolution now and then to keep itself invigorated? I think they DID.

    It's time to take our country BACK. (You probably don't like me saying that, either) (Bummer for you)

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    Aug 4, 2011, 09:15 AM
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    Hello Steve:

    I couldn't agree with the Goracle more. What??? Didn't the Tea Party people say sh*t like the country needs a revolution now and then to keep itself invigorated?? I think they DID.
    I think Jefferson said that, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
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    Aug 4, 2011, 09:25 AM
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    I think Jefferson said that, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
    Excellent - we'll watch on the sidelines as you spill the blood of your fellow americans. Although I'm quite certain this hubris can be attributed to internet courage.
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    Aug 4, 2011, 09:38 AM

    Hello again,

    Look, the Goricle used a poor choice of words. He's talking about a coming together at the grass roots exactly like the tea party did. He's not calling for revolution any more than the tea party did... Of course they DID carry guns, and they DID threaten to use 'em.

    The left ain't pu$$y's. If we need to use OUR Second Amendment rights to defend LIBERTY, ain't that what it's about?

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    Aug 4, 2011, 09:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Excellent - we'll watch on the sidelines as you spill the blood of your fellow americans. Although I'm quite certain this hubris can be attributed to internet courage.
    I'm certain your hubris can be attributed to "internet courage." Seeing as how I didn't threaten anyone but merely offered a quote that ex alluded to, I'd say your little cheap shot was pretty darn cowardly.

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