[Wondergirl]

Yup, I do. I want a man who can relate to the common family.

Obama's early years were spent with a white mom and black dad who divorced. His mom remarried (so he had to learn how to live with a stepdad). He was half-raised by a grandmother. He moved around and had no stable home except with his grandmother in Hawaii.

If anyone had an elitist upbringing, it was G. W. Bush.

[Wondergirl]

Give him time, but the trend is obvious

Happily, he is a good learner.

[Catsmine]

Hatred is a nasty thing - you should let it go lest it cloud your judgement.

Considering NK's stated opinions of Sarah Palin, this should be noted as the voice of experience.

[tomder55]

Are you saying that someone shouldn't keep your constant spreading of FUD in check? I hope not. You should not get carte blanche to continue whining about everyone who does share the same particular political affiliation as you.

I welcome challenges to my opionions and facts. That happens all the time here without the personal insults.

[speechlesstx]

Ok, how do you propose the situation be handled?

Vote for someone else.

[speechlesstx]

BTW using "nobama" makes you sound like a child.

Which brings us back to my earlier point - POTUS sounds juvenile by trying to find someone's a$$ to kick instead of being a leader.

[NeedKarma]

POTUS sounds juvenile by trying to find someone's a$$ to kick instead of being a leader.

But he didn't say that did he? He was asked before his response, on whether it was time to "kick some butt". His words were a tongue-in-cheek response, using Matt Lauer's words back at him. Watch the whole thing. He's not trying to be badass. He's just paraphrasing the reporter's words.

Scarborough: People will "hyperventilat[e]" over Obama's " to kick" comment because they're "idiots" | Media Matters for America

If he's civil, you people that he's not getting pissed off, so he gets pissed off, and you complain that he's not civil.

[speechlesstx]

But he didn't say that did he? He was asked before his response, on whether it was time to "kick some butt". His words were a tongue-in-cheek response, using Matt Lauer's words back at him. Watch the whole thing. He's not trying to be badass. He's just paraphrasing the reporter's words.

The president of the United States, allows himself to be goaded into a schoolyard taunt and you think that's leadership, you think that's presidential. You think him talking to people so he knows "whose a$$ to kick" instead of so he'll know how to solve the problem is leadership.

We talk to these folks because they potentially had the best answers so I know whose a$$ to kick. Right?

Wrong! He didn't run on a platform of assigning blame, he was not elected to assign blame, that is not "change you can believe in."

If he's civil, you people that he's not getting pissed off, so he gets pissed off, and you complain that he's not civil.

As if you gave Bush any slack?

[NeedKarma]

a schoolyard taunt

My you're a delicate little creature aren't you. :) It's amazing what offends you. You politically correct types must get offended hundreds of times a day.

[speechlesstx]

My you're a delicate little creature aren't you. :) It's amazing what offends you. You politically correct types must get offended hundreds of times a day.

Obviously, taunting and goading are tactics you find relevant.

[NeedKarma]

Obviously, taunting and goading are tactics you find relevant.

As do you since that is you're raison d'être here.

[tomder55]

I would think that a prequesite to kicking a$$ would be to actually meet the person who's a$$ you are going to kick.

[NeedKarma]

Doesn't have to be a physical thing does it?

[speechlesstx]

LAUER: Have you spoken directly to Tony Hayward, the CEO of BP?

OBAMA: I have not spoken to him directly and, and here's the reason. Because my experience is when you talk to a guy like BP's CEO, he's going to say all the right things to me. I'm not interested in words. I'm interested in actions. And, and, and, and we are communicating to him every single day exactly what we expect of him and what we expect of that administration.

Let's see, how many CEO's have they dragged into Washington to cross examine?

[tomder55]

I realize that he meant a rhetorical beat down ;or more likely sick the dogs of the justice dept on BP after he isn't dependent on them anymore.

Still as I already mentioned ; he is not shy about summoning into his office other captains of industry when he wants to impose his will on them. But when it makes sense during "the worse environmental crisis in the country's history " he fails to consult with the person from BP primarily responsible for action.

Don't you think that's strange ? I think a closer examination of the relationship between the Obama machine and BP is warrented .

[speechlesstx]

Don't you think that's strange ? I think a closer examination of the relationship between the Obama machine and BP is warrented .

Matt Laeur to his credit has been tougher on Obama lately, his response was "In all due respect, that feels strange to me."

It should feel strange considering how quickly executives of Toyota and other corporations in their cross hairs have been summoned for an "a$$-kicking."

[excon]

Don't you think that's strange ? I think a closer examination of the relationship between the Obama machine and BP is warrented .

Hello again, tom:

Yeah, he was a big supporter of "drill, baby drill". You're in good company, though. Sarah Palin thinks he's in bed with the oil industry too...

Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

[tomder55]

You see Palin as a discredited politician . I don't . (Check out how many primary winners were endorsed by Palin yesterday. )

Obama biggest recipient of BP cash - Erika Lovley - POLITICO.com

Of course Palin also received oil company donations in her time ;but she has a track record of imposing her will on them for the benefit of her constituency.

[excon]

You see Palin as a discredited politician . I don't

Hello again, tom:

I don't either, although I think quitting on her constituents to make money is kind of shabby. I believe you. I think she DID do some good stuff while governor. That isn't why I disdain her. I do that, because she's an idiot. Even idiots get stuff done once in a while.

She didn't know anything about the world when she first came upon the national scene. That's OK. She's had TIME to brush up on stuff, but she hasn't. Book learning is probably TOO elite for her. She knows as little about the world as she did back then. She's even dufuser than the original dufus.

excon

[tomder55]

I won't try to change your opinion about her intellect and neither of us know if she has done any international study . I don't see her as running in a national campaign any time soon so I think that issue can be shelved for now.

But you are giving her a bad rap about the circumstances that sort of forced her to resign . The fact is the ethics reforms she championed ,and pushed through the Alaska legislature were used against her by the unscrupulous . The unproven ;the false ,the libelous charges were forcing her to waste time and money on her defense ;and as a result affecting her ability to be an effective executive. She did the people of Alaska a favor by resigning so some normalcy could return to the state government . She also needed to raise money and she has of course also been very effective at that.