[speechlesstx]

You are a bad influence over ex.

Lol.

[excon]

Hello again,

But as long as ex is paying for their health insurance he has a right to have a say in what they do with their bodies.

Ok, let's clear this up. I have a say when it doesn't conflict with a right. For example, they don't have a right to smoke, and I believe that I have a right to penalize them for it, or fire them for it if I choose.

Where Steve is WRONG to cite me, is that my interest in their lives is NOT moral. It's $$'s and cents. If it need to be said, as long as I'm paying for my MALE'S health care, I am REQUIRED by the constitution of this great land of ours, to pay for my FEMALE'S coverage too. That's just so.

It was a nice switch, though.. You don't like answering my questions lately. You deflect, and skirt. You hide. I've never known you to be so shy.

Excon

[talaniman]

Actually Tom you have to sign a consent form for any doctor to share any medical information, and good luck with overturning Roe v Wade since the constitutoinality of a female right to an abortion is firm in the first trimeter, but is illegal after except when the mothers health isn't in danger.

State nullification of federal law will fail and cost somebody a lot of loot.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again,

Ok, let's clear this up. I have a say when it doesn't conflict with a right. For example, they don't have a right to smoke, and I believe that I have a right to penalize them for it, or fire them for it if I choose.

Where Steve is WRONG to cite me, is that my interest in their lives is NOT moral. It's $$'s and cents. If it need to be said, as long as I'm paying for my MALE'S health care, I am REQUIRED by the constitution of this great land of ours, to pay for my FEMALE'S coverage too. That's just so.

It was a nice switch, though.. You don't like answering my questions lately. You deflect, and skirt. You hide. I've never known you to be so shy.

excon

So if it's about money, it's OK to tell people what to do with their bodies. Interesting.

Oh, and I DID answer your question

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

I hear the wheels turning.. You're wondering WHERE you can use that AGAINST me. I'll give you an opportunity, have no doubt of that.

excon

[tomder55]

Actually Tom you have to sign a consent form for any doctor to share any medical information

Obamacare database... you isn't seen nothing yet as to what they can do with the information . Starting next year , your doctor must record your body mass index (BMI), each time he or she treats you and turn it over to the government .Your BMI will then be tracked by HHS . What you saw at CVS this week will be repeated nationwide . The collection of each patient's BMI was so important that it was one of the first directives the department issued after ObamaCare passed. There is a reason for that.

The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force recently recommended that all obese adults receive "intensive counseling in an effort to rein in a growing health crisis in America" and that they have "intensive, multicomponent behavioral interventions."
Obese adults should get counseling, federal panel says - Los Angeles Times
So what we are looking at is mandatory government intervention if a person is a fatty . If we push this to the logical conclusion that the libs want ;a European style universal system ,this will be the pretext for service denial .
NHS patients refused treatment unless they change their lifestyles | Mail Online

[NeedKarma]

Obese adults should get counseling, federal panel says - Los Angeles Times

The task force recommendation did not become law.

[tomder55]

Thus the line obamacare database ...you aint seen nothing yet as to what they can do with the information ... "intensive, multicomponent behavioral interventions." It's bad enough that corporations are already going to impose these surcharges ,but when the government gets around to denying care ,another blow to liberty will have been struck in this country.

[talaniman]

You hate Obama care but its okay to probe females and tell them what to do with their bodies.

[tomder55]

And the Dems love Obamacare so much that they just voted to repeal the medical device tax provision of the bill. More to come... I want to see Obama get one of those mandatory interventions for his smoking habit .

[NeedKarma]

but when the government gets around to denying care

You mean like the insurance companies have been doing for years? Yea I know, you'll say that you can change insurance companies but in reality that is not the case at all. It's another fear tactic.

[talaniman]

Don't get excited Tom, it's a very early non binding vote. Got a link to the full bill yet? I watched it on CSpan this morning while I was getting my draft selections ready. I guess the senate can draft a budget.

[tomder55]

I've heard that stuff for years and have yet to meet anyone who was insured in the past and denied coverage .

[tomder55]

Don't get excited Tom, its a very early non binding vote. Got a link to the full bill yet? I watched it on CSpan this morning while I was getting my draft selections ready. I guess the senate can draft a budget.

The Senate passed their budget by a vote. But yes ,the vote on the medical device tax was non-binding . It was a CYA vote . Yup ,even Elizabeth Warren voted to repeal.

[cdad]

Where Steve is WRONG to cite me, is that my interest in their lives is NOT moral. It's $$'s and cents.

excon

This is scary. If it all comes down to just money then those with lifetime problems or high cost births then it would mean them not being born at all due to the codts that come with it.

DO we start denying cancer care because of the cost ? How about AIDS ? Not to mention other health care problems that can arise throughout a lifetime.

[speechlesstx]

This is scary. If it all comes down to just money then those with lifetime problems or high cost births then it would mean them not being born at all due to the codts that come with it.

DO we start denying cancer care because of the cost ? How about AIDS ? Not to mention other health care problems that can arise throughout a lifetime.

Just a matter of time... and dollars.

[tomder55]

Time for an update on the Democrat war on women :

NY Daily Snooze is reporting that low income female employees of the NYC Parks Dept were forced to strip down to the undies and dance around a stripper's pole .

The clandestine parties were held in a so-called “boom boom” room at a city-owned facility on Randalls Island. And the seasonal workers who “got on the pole” were rewarded with additional work or permanent jobs, sources told The News.

A female worker who attended several of the parties said they got steamier each year.


Female Parks Department workers stripped for permanent jobs, more work at raunchy holiday parties: sources - NY Daily News

There was never a direct order from Cafaro or Figueroa for the women to participate, according to the female staffers who took their complaints public. But the seasonal workers get asked back for jobs or offered permanent positions based on the recommendations of Cafaro and Figueroa, the workers said.

Many of the women are low-income single mothers, some of whom came into the job through the welfare system and are desperate to keep the seasonal positions that can run anywhere from four to six months at a time.

The most junior positions start at $9, and city seasonal workers, who Benn represents, get $14 an hour. Cafaro tacitly encouraged women to go along with the suggestive atmosphere by rewarding those who stripped down to their skivvies and danced on the pole with more work, said the female staffers.

This comes in the wake of revelations that a NYC assemblyman made all types of lurid and frankly disgusting advances on his female staff.

Eight former Lopez staffers, all young women, described his lurid behavior to state investigators.

Some were forced to massage his body. The cancer-stricken Lopez allegedly rubbed the thighs of others — and even forced one woman to feel his tumors.

Some of the alleged acts took place during car trips to and from Albany, Long Island and Atlantic City,
Pervy pol Vito Lopez could face criminal charges outside Brooklyn: legal experts - NY Daily News

And of course we get to watch the spectacle of a Weiner campaign . The hubby of Huma Weiner of the Clintoon machine;who notoriously texted pix of his junk to women is attempting a political comeback Today he began advertising for college interns as 'staffers '... another trick he learned from the Clintoons. Their specialty must be in social media skills to help him 'enhance 'his message .
Weiner in job posting seeking interns for mayoral campaign - NYPOST.com

[NeedKarma]

How does that relate to a democratic war on women?

[tomder55]

NY is a democrat state . All the pols I mention are Dems In good standing .They talk a good game about protecting women .But in the final analysis ,they are all misogynists.

[speechlesstx]

The ol' "name that party" game when Dems are behaving badly.