[Wondergirl]

My mil was no longer driving and had allowed her driver's license to lapse. She thus had no valid ID and would have been turned away at certain polling places.

Many people in Chicago use public transportation or walk (i.e. don't own a car) and thus do not have a driver's license (valid ID).

[talaniman]

I'd rather have American citizens as poll watchers than the UN, and as long as EVERYONE has to abide by the same ID requirements there is no discrimination.

Really...then why are they the ones fighting AGAINST a required photo ID? There is no other reason.

I was quite clear with my objection to the way you guys tried to implement the voter ID requirements, it sucked, but now you have two years to get it right and I expect a better rollout than the last attempt.

As for the guys attempting to intimidate voters, did you also notice that people ignored them? Unlike True The Vote who vowed to intimidate voters and did indeed spark purges of voter rolls.

[smoothy]

I was quite clear with my objection to the way you guys tried to implement the voter ID requirements, it sucked, but now you have two years to get it right and I expect a better rollout than the last attempt.

As for the guys attempting to intimidate voters, did you also notice that people ignored them? Unlike True The Vote who vowed to intimidate voters and did indeed spark purges of voter rolls.

BS... thats a lame excuse... because the true votes were wswamped by repeat votes.. votes by dead people... votes by illegals...

If there were TRUE votes out there... Obama would have lost by a landslide.

[talaniman]

Says YOU!!

[speechlesstx]

I was quite clear with my objection to the way you guys tried to implement the voter ID requirements, it sucked, but now you have two years to get it right and I expect a better rollout than the last attempt.

You're the one that brought up jumping through hoops and literacy tests:

And the hoops many may have to jump through because they lack a car, or a birth certificate, or the multiple forms that need to be filled out do eerily echo literacy tests.

If EVERYONE has the same rules what's the beef, only blacks have problems with transportation, ID and registering?

[talaniman]

We have already argued those points so let move on. You guys lost the bid to rig the last election, and lost they election period. So lets get to the next rigging attempt with the electoral college and expanding section 5.

[tomder55]

Expand sec 5 ? Nahh ,we want it gone. The Dems want to punish certain states and locals forever . You may say that the Dems aren't opposed to voter ID ;but I haven't heard one major Dem come out in support of voter id efforts..

[speechlesstx]

Yep, "progressives" can't see the irony in rejecting progress and treating some states and districts with prejudice in the name of impartiality.

[talaniman]

expand sec 5 ? Nahh ,we want it gone. The Dems want to punish certain states and locals forever . You may say that the Dems aren't opposed to voter ID ;but I haven't heard one major Dem come out in support of voter id efforts..

Yep, "progressives" can't see the irony in rejecting progress and treating some states and districts with prejudice in the name of impartiality.

Its in court fellas, and I doubt the bringer of the suit (Sheby Co, AL) can sufficiently defend the 240 cases of documented violations of the voter rights act, since 2005.

I seriously doubt that SCOTUS will see this as a punishment either since anyone can apply for a bailout, and many have succeeded in getting relief from being under Section 5. Republicans should be punished, and harshly for election shenanigans. I mean 150 years after Lincoln and 6 months after the movie, Mississippi finally takes slavery off the books? Really?

Guess we have to wait for the decision.

[smoothy]

Right after Obama gets harshly punished for his shenanigans and his personal involvement with Acorn... Right?

[excon]

Hello again, smoothy:

You forget to mention that he's a Kenyon...

excon

[smoothy]

Hello again, smoothy:

You forget to mention that he's a Kenyon...

excon

Kenyan... Nigerian... same difference... both are crooks.

[paraclete]

What is kenyon, a cousin to canyon? If you are speaking of Obama ancestry it is Kenyan, now if you are being satyrical and suggesting Obama is an abyss, you may be right

[Wondergirl]

what is kenyon, a cousin to canyon? if you are speaking of Obama ancestory it is Kenyan, now if you are being satyrical and suggesting Obama is an abyss, you may be right

I was going to correct the spelling, but I usually leave this board alone (since you all understand each other despite misspellings and typos).

[paraclete]

I understand everything but every now and then an opportunity presents...

[smoothy]

what is kenyon, a cousin to canyon? if you are speaking of Obama ancestory it is Kenyan, now if you are being satyrical and suggesting Obama is an abyss, you may be right

He's that too... however more like a black hole than an abyss... because the black hole sucks in and consumes absolutely everything near it... an abyss sits their and waits for stuff to fall in.

We would be far better off if he was just an abyss.

[speechlesstx]

Republicans should be punished, and harshly for election shenanigans.

For what, requiring an ID? What the hell, Tal? Why shouldn't Dems be punished for election shenanigans? Why should Holder have dismissed the New Black Panthers case he had already won?

[talaniman]

I amin favor of NATIONAL ID cards for anyone with a SS card period, and if its biometric so much the better but as far as 6 to 8 months before an election? No way should major changes be made. Its an unfair burden for the populace. I am perplexed at why someone who holllers about their rights, the churches rights, and rich peoples rights, that you could so blatantly interfere in the rights of citizens to vote. Explain your prejudice please, and your god awful hurry to change the rules in the middle of the stream.

As to the embellishing the incident you label as a threat by TWO people, one a certified poll watcher, and completely be silent about the repubs registration fiasco is quite beyond my understanding too.

New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The incident drew the attention of police, who around 10:00 am, sent King Samir away in part because of his billy club. Jackson was allowed to stay, in part because he was a certified poll watcher.[7] Stephen Robert Morse, a journalist and filmmaker, upon arriving at the scene, pulled out a Flip video camera and focused on Samir Shabazz. Morse turned over the video of the incident to ElectionJournal.org.[8] The incident gained national attention after being uploaded to YouTube.[2]

No complaints were filed by voters about the incident, although poll watchers witnessed some voters approach the polls and then turn away, apparently in response to the New Black Panther Party members.[9]

GOP voter registration scandal widens - Salon.com

A man originally reported to have been working for the Republican Party of Virginia was arrested by the Rockingham County, Va. Sheriff's Office on Thursday and charged with attempting to destroy voter registration forms by tossing them into a dumpster behind a shopping center in Harrisonburg, Va.

How you equate an incident, minor on its face, and isolated with a deliberate plot to commit voter fraud is a mystery to me. You want integrity in voting? Then start with your own party, and demand better.

[speechlesstx]

Dude, whenever you're ready to talk based on reality, I'm here. I will not keep wasting my time answering to positions you assign to me.

[excon]

Hello again,

Isn't this the thread where you righty's CONVICTED Senator Menendez based solely on a right wing blog? I think it IS.

In any case, looks like that sleaze bag Tucker Carlson set the whole thing up, kind of like Breitbart did a couple of times...

I suggested that you WAIT before you convict him.. But, you NEVER listen to reason.

excon