[Athos]

Forget EVERYBODY else, just follow your leader!

For leader, the pick is between an orange-headed goofball OR the leading epidemiologist in the USA.

“So the numbers you’ve been hearing — the 180,000-plus deaths — are real deaths from Covid-19. Let [there] not be any confusion about that,” Fauci said.

[jlisenbe]

Is that the same "leading epidemiologist" who advised us NOT to wear masks back in the spring?

Back then, Fauci told “60 Minutes” that face masks might make people “feel a little bit better,” but they simply don’t protect people and, instead, bring “unintended consequences.”
“When it comes to preventing coronavirus, public health officials have been clear: Healthy people do not need to wear a face mask to protect themselves from COVID-19,” CBS News reported March 8. citing Fauci.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...read-covid-19/

[tomder55]

the leading epidemiologist in the USA.

He is a life time government bureaucrat . This demigod Fauci is the same one who said it was ok to take cruises during the pandemic . January he told us there was no risk . He also argued against the flight ban from China . Even worse about the masks ;he knew he was lying . As he later admitted he was concerned that there would be a shortage of masks . So he said the public doesn't need to wear them.

[talaniman]

Is that the same "leading epidemiologist" who advised us NOT to wear masks back in the spring?

Back then, Fauci told “60 Minutes” that face masks might make people “feel a little bit better,” but they simply don’t protect people and, instead, bring “unintended consequences.”
“When it comes to preventing coronavirus, public health officials have been clear: Healthy people do not need to wear a face mask to protect themselves from COVID-19,” CBS News reported March 8. citing Fauci.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...read-covid-19/

Guess he was wrong, but was he as wrong as the dufus who said it would disappear when the weather warmed up? Or he had it under control when there was only 15 deaths? , Is the dufus wrong now, declaring today we've turned a corner on the virus?

You tell me who I should believe?

[jlisenbe]

Biden, for sure. The man who is really convinced that Edison did not invent the light bulb. Real science and history expert, so he likely knows a lot about medicine.

In the meantime, 1.4 million jobs added in August. Stock market up more than 50% during the Trump years. Hmmm. Sounds like the guy knows something about the economy.

[Wondergirl]

In the meantime, 1.4 million jobs added in August. Stock market up more than 50% during the Trump years. Hmmm. Sounds like the guy knows something about the economy.

He knows only because HIS stocks are up. He had nothing to do with it.

[jlisenbe]

Oh please. He has done what Obama did not come close to in his eight years. You just hate the guy and refuse to give him credit for anything. Besides, just improving stocks he owns would not raise the DJIA by that amount. And to say he had nothing to do with it??? He's the president of the United States. He had a LOT to do with it.

[paraclete]

how could he have anything to do with it when he has had a obstructionist house, are you saying you have a tariff led recovery?

[talaniman]

The only thing the dufus has done is give rich guys a tax cut, and appoint conservative judges and take credit for a growing economy Obama had to build from scratch. Wall Street hasn't crashed because the fed is pumping trillion into it to keep us from a disaster.

The dufus claim to fame is lying, cheating, and stealing.

[jlisenbe]

Your basic argument is that you hate Trump, so he couldn't have done anything good. Well, the stock market is up drastically, jobs are recovering, and unemployment was at historic lows when the Covid disaster hit, so I guess we just have to chalk it up to incredible coincidences. Remember that the growth in manufacturing jobs in Trump's first 18 months was 10 TIMES greater than in Obama's 96 months. Coincidence?

In the meantime, Trump's approval ratings are back up to pre-Covid levels, and that explains the assault of unsourced accusations from the left. They are terrified. And I say this as a non fan of Trump, but I am willing to give credit where credit is due. I have no rabid hatred of him to cloud my judgment.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...re-coronavirus

[talaniman]

No, my argument was stated in post 129 and you can quote me on that.

[jlisenbe]

Obama doubled the national debt in only 8 years so your fed argument doesn’t work.

hatred clouds judgment. If Obama had accomplished what Trump has you would be singing his praises.

[talaniman]

Obama doubled the national debt in only 8 years so your fed argument doesn’t work.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/fed-...purchases.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/investo.../#4190cc5355f4

https://needtoknow.news/2020/03/the-...-1-5-trillion/

hatred clouds judgment. If Obama had accomplished what Trump has you would be singing his praises.

Obama dealt with his health and economic crisis's, is it too much to expect the same of this dufus?

[jlisenbe]

I have pointed out his economic successes which far surpass anything that Obama did. Your general approach is to cheer wildly for anything associated with Obama and to dismiss anything associated with trump. Hard to carry on that kind of discussion.

[talaniman]

LOL, hard to have a discussion when you wildly exaggerate the dufus accomplishments while minimizing what was done before him. Like giving Edison all the credit for the light bulb and ignoring the improvement Latimer made to it.

I get it though given a big election is on the horizon, and covid has everyone screwed up and on edge. The dufus works for you, but not for me, thus my support for Biden, and mail in voting. That won't change. I'm ready to vote my own interests, and do what I have to survive despite the challenges as I always have.

Probably the same as you are.

[jlisenbe]

you wildly exaggerate the dufus accomplishments

How did I do that?

I give Edison all the credit for developing the first practical light bulb, just like every other even halfway knowledgeable person in the world does except for Biden and (possibly) you.

thus my support for Biden, and mail in voting.

Interesting that your support for mail-in voting is tied to wanting Biden to win. So much for objectivity on your part.

[jlisenbe]

Clete, are you familiar with this story?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ppb0fsYFM

[talaniman]

How did I do that?

I laid it out in post 135, and 133.

I give Edison all the credit for developing the first practical light bulb, just like every other even halfway knowledgeable person in the world does except for Biden and (possibly) you.

I don't, and historical FACTS are on my side.

https://www.livescience.com/43424-wh...oltaic%20pile.

In 1882, Lewis Howard Latimer, one of Edison's researchers, patented a more efficient way of manufacturing carbon filaments. And in 1903, Willis R. Whitney invented a treatment for these filaments that allowed them to burn bright without darkening the insides of their glass bulbs.

Just one of many involved in the development of the light bulb that had been going on for years.

Interesting that your support for mail-in voting is tied to wanting Biden to win. So much for objectivity on your part.

Actually you confuse my choice for president, with my choice for how to vote. I actually would prefer biometric ID's and electronic voting but by mail is where we're at.

[jlisenbe]

Ok. I give up. Thomas Edison did not actually invent the light bulb. Every reputable history book needs to be changed. Every historian with even half a brain must change what he or she teaches since after all that fount of knowledge named Biden knows it all.

Your two posts laid out nothing.

[talaniman]

Would you rather debate who discovered America?