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jlisenbe · Mar 11, 2019, 02:57 PM

Verifying his information of course. He has a good track record so far draining the swamp of liars, cheaters, and criminals that worked for yo' dufus who MOST Americans don't like.

Information about what?? The only track record Mueller has is of going after Trump associates who broke the law BEFORE becoming affiliated with the Trump campaign. And please don't tell me all about Cohen's unsupported allegations about Trump. The man is a convicted liar and it has been demonstrated that some of his most recent testimony was not true.

talaniman · Mar 11, 2019, 03:25 PM

So you support and approve of The Dufus hiring CRIMINALS and liars to help get elected to the highest office of the land? I got it! You probably approve of pardoning those convicted criminals too! I got it!

paraclete · Mar 11, 2019, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

So you support and approve of The Dufus hiring CRIMINALS and liars to help get elected to the highest office of the land? I got it! You probably approve of pardoning those convicted criminals too! I got it!

We are certainly glad you have got it

jlisenbe · Mar 11, 2019, 07:24 PM

So you support and approve of The Dufus hiring CRIMINALS and liars to help get elected to the highest office of the land? I got it! You probably approve of pardoning those convicted criminals too! I got it!

Speak for yourself. Trump Derangement Syndrome at work.

paraclete · Mar 11, 2019, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Speak for yourself. Trump Derangement Syndrome at work.

Let us think on this a while. The choice of non criminals among career politicians, what a conundrum, and when you employ sycophants, who knows what you will get. Trump opted to appoint his own family, not acceptable, but someone forgot to tell him he wasn't emperor, after all, he had Obama as a guide. Talent is hard to find, businessmen may not understand political life

talaniman · Mar 12, 2019, 08:09 AM

So you do support a lying cheating dufus and his criminal sycophants governing your nation? Simple enough question but obviously you have no answer.

jlisenbe · Mar 12, 2019, 08:56 AM

So you do support a lying cheating dufus and his criminal sycophants governing your nation? Simple enough question but obviously you have no answer.

I have the same answer you would have used for Obama. I support his policies.

talaniman · Mar 12, 2019, 09:19 AM

For whatever reason, good or bad or ugly, Obama was re elected and none of his cabinet was charged and convicted of any criminal behavior, not even Hillary. Now the dufus is an entirely different circumstance isn't it? No he hasn't been charged with anything but his peeps have, and he is still under investigation by every cop in the country and its only been two years.

So if that's the best answer you got, then that's your answer, as inadequate a dodge as I have ever seen even from you.

jlisenbe · Mar 12, 2019, 10:38 AM

Trump has had cabinet members charged and convicted of crimes?? Which cabinet members?

Which of Trump's cabinet members engaged in activity as sleazy as AG Lynch meeting for 45 minutes in private with Bill Clinton (after they just "happened" to run into each other at an airport) when his wife was the subject of an active FBI investigation? And wasn't it a shocker when, less than a week later, the FBI director acknowledged that HC had broken the law but then declined to indict her?

Or when has Trump sent a White Official on a lying campaign on five Sunday morning news programs to cover up his pathetic performance in Benghazi?

You can pretend everything is wonderful if you want to, but those who are actually paying attention, and not looking at the world through political colored glasses, do not share your rosy opinion of Mr. Obama.

Politics, politics, politics.

tomder55 · Mar 13, 2019, 02:08 PM

Lisa Page testimony under oath ... Basically she said that the emperor's DOJ was ordered to NOT consider charging Evita with gross negligence in the handling of classified information.

Mr. Ratcliffe: Okay. So let me if I can, I know I’m testing your memory, but when you say advice you got from the Department, you’re making it sound like it was the Department that told you: You’re not going to charge gross negligence because we’re the prosecutors and we’re telling you we’re not going to –Ms. Page: That is Correct.

The transcript also reveals that

Lisa Page and Peter Strzok had no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia prior to the launch of the FBI and special counsel investigations into the matter.

Mr. Ratcliffe: Okay. So that same day in the consideration of this, he texts you and says: “You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I’d be there, no question. I hesitate, in part, because of my gut sense and concern there’s no big there there.” What’s he talking about?Ms. Page: So I think this represents that even as far as of May of 2017, we still couldn’t answer the question – sorry. Can I consult with counsel? I’m sorry, I need to consult with FBI counsel for a moment.

https://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.co.../lisa-page.pdf

jlisenbe · Mar 13, 2019, 02:42 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing ended up blowing up in the faces of the dems.

talaniman · Mar 13, 2019, 08:33 PM

Campaign manager Manafort gets sentenced to 7.5 years total by a second judge for his criminal actions spanning decades and a half an hour later get indicted by NY. Did Whittaker lie to congress? We'll see, but Manafort's lawyer sure did, claiming that another judge has found no collusion.

For now seems it's blowing up in repubs faces.

Wondergirl · Mar 13, 2019, 08:50 PM

From Vanity Fair:

"I am sorry for what I’ve done and all the activities that have gotten us here today,” he told Judge Amy Berman Jackson, claiming that he shouldn’t get more jail time for the copious federal crimes he committed because he is his adult wife’s “primary caretaker,” and the two of them need each other. “I know that it was my conduct that brought me here today,” Manafort added. “For that, I am remorseful. While I cannot undo the past, I can ensure that the future will be very different. . . . I can say to you with conviction that my behavior in the future will be very different.”

While that reasoning might have worked on Judge T.S. Ellis, who strangely argued last week that Manafort had led a “blameless life” outside of all the crime, Jackson wasn’t having it, sentencing him to an additional 43 months on federal conspiracy charges, and letting him know she saw right through his act: “Saying I’m sorry I got caught is not an inspiring plea for leniency.”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...-ny-indictment

jlisenbe · Mar 14, 2019, 04:10 AM

All of which has nothing to do with the Trump administration.

It seems rather plain by now that there was no Russian collusion to get Trump elected. It also is beginning to be clear that there WAS collusion between the Obama DOJ and the HC campaign in an effort to get her elected. Now we can wait and see if this brings outrage to the people on this board who were outraged about the non-existent collusion pertaining to Trump.

I am not a Trump supporter. I'd love to be able to vote for a more qualified person, and if that person steps forward I will. But it is nauseating to me to see the double standard so evident in some of the posts on this board. People who were in love with the scandal-ridden Obama admin have such hatred of Trump. It's interesting to watch.

WG, glad you are posting again. Sometimes you seem to disappear. I would say it's good to have a female's perspective on things, but I guess that kind of observation is no longer allowable in our PC culture.

talaniman · Mar 14, 2019, 07:54 AM

Let's see now, his campaign workers and transition team members are lying criminals and have been for decades, and his cabinet members are still under investigation and resigned for ethics violations but none of that has to do with the administration who are under investigation themselves. Okay, for now everybody not in jail, going to jail, is innocent until proved guilty, and never mind the porn stars and playboy bunnies, we still have the fact of misuse of charity funds, and a lifetime ban on the dufus and family for any kind of charity stuff, as we look closer at the dude and his family finances.

And all those gifts he gets from foreign and domestic lobbyist seeking favors by buying a bunch of rooms keeping them afloat. Or a forgotten fact of his firing all those long time illegals to work at his properties. I could go on for a long time with those scandals happening NOW, and being reviewed, but let me leave this post with a fact you cannot ignore... which party has the female and minority voices you said are so good to have?

Think carefully now, and again, I don't hate the dufus at all, but I HATE his policies, words, and behavior, ideas, and actions. Unlike you, I never put anyone on a pedestal not even Obama or Hillary and my main issue with the dufus is he is a lying cheating immoral BULLY that feeds hate division for his personal gain.

talaniman · Mar 14, 2019, 11:24 AM

jlisenbe · Mar 14, 2019, 11:38 AM

his cabinet members are still under investigation and resigned for ethics violations

For the second time, which ones??

talaniman · Mar 14, 2019, 01:07 PM

Let me Google that for you.

jlisenbe · Mar 14, 2019, 01:19 PM

First you said they were charged with crimes. After that turned out not to be true, you come up with a couple of resignations over relatively trivial issues such as accepting tickets to a tennis tournament. Now compare that to Loretta Lynch's private meeting with the husband of a woman under active FBI investigation, and then the woman, who happened to be the democrat candidate for president, just miraculously not being charged with a crime a few days later. The difference is, at least the Trump people are held accountable. Tell me, whatever happened to AG Lynch? Answer: absolutely nothing. And the same kind of case could be made against AG Holder and the Fast and Furious debacle which resulted in a dead American law enforcement officer.

So are you really sure you want to start comparing cabinet officials between Trump and Obama???

talaniman · Mar 14, 2019, 02:09 PM

Why didn't the dufus's DOJ investigated your so called allegations of Hillary, Lynch and all the other dems you alleged are criminals? Whose fault is it? I'll answer that for you, they had nothing, and were to busy stealing our money for their own good and have always been totally incompetent at investigating.

Even after Mueller's investigation, many more will already be under way as the indictment of Manafort indicates. Now if you want to go back and relitigate your past failures then have at it. Let me know when you have EVIDENCE that you can indict and bring to court, but in the meantime rest assured yo' boy ends up in court, with enough evidence to present to a jury.

You repubs and conservatives would do well to take notes instead of hollering crap. You could learn much about accountability facts and evidence if you weren't so intent on keeping a PROVEN liar, cheater, and racist bully, on a pedestal.

Enjoy it while you got it I suppose!